Hello,

Are there any reasons to migrate from fedora-23 to fedora-24 regarding:

- features
- security
(...)

Regards

- P

Am 14.06.2017 12:30 vorm. schrieb "'Tomei Ningen' via qubes-users" <
qubes-users@googlegroups.com>:

> > I'm a strong advocate of using minimal (or smaller) templates,
> customised for specific use cases. Some people HATE this approach.
> >
> > unman
>
>      Really? Coming from the sort of people with the patience for an OS
> like Qubes? I'd think anyone who's involved enough to have an opinion would
> be in favor of that -- that's kind of the idea here, isn't it?  One thing I
> wish I could change would be the visual clutter it produces; anybody know
> of a means to flag these VMs as internal so I can hide the ones I'm not
> interested in seeing regularly?
>      That being said, I'm definitely in agreement with you, unman. Would
> you recommend any particular setup for a more granular approach? My current
> arrangement of VMs [work in progress; suggestions welcome!] is structured
> like this as of now:
>
>
>    - dom0
>    - fedora-24
>    - dispVM(s)
>       - fedora-24-minimal *( ... > derivative templates > appVM >
>    packages*)*
>    - fedora-24-min-net
>       - sys-net**
>          - *General-purpose: *gnome-keyring, less, man, pciutils, psmisc,
>             sudo, vim-minimal, xterm
>             - *Template-specific: *dbus-x11, dejavu-sans-fonts,
>             NetworkManager, NetworkManager-wifi, network-manager-applet,
>             notification-daemon, tinyproxy
>             - fedora-24-min-frwll
>       - sys-firewall
>          - *No additional packages; effectively a clone of the
>             Fedora-24-minimal template.*
>             - fedora-24-min-vpn
>       - sys-vpn
>          - *G.P.*: sudo, xterm
>             - *T.S.*: [TBD; trying out some different VPNs atm]
>             - fedora-24-min-usb
>       - sys-usb
>          - *G.P.*: sudo, xterm
>             - *T.S.*: qubes-input-proxy-sender
>             - fedora-24-min-pen
>       - pentest
>          - *G.P.*: sudo, xterm
>             - *T.S.*: aircrack-ng, ettercap, kismet, nmap, nmap-telcat,
>             tcpdump, wireshark***, [remaining packages TBD]
>
> * The concomitant dependencies aren't included in these lists (n.b.
> packages are installed in the respective templateVM)
> ** Can't quite get this one to run properly yet; I presume I need to
> install a proprietary driver in the template to make this work for my
> machine(?)
> *** Very interested in trying out v6ak's split-wireshark" idea but haven't
> found the time yet. Thanks for sharing that idea, v6ak!
>
> - TN
>
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