W dniu czwartek, 17 sierpnia 2017 05:31:39 UTC+2 użytkownik ludwig jaffe 
napisał:
> Am Mittwoch, 16. August 2017 06:30:39 UTC-4 schrieb bored lord:
> > Hello Guys,
> > 
> > i sitting here next to a Desktop PC which is almost as loud as a freaking 
> > datacenter. Due to my old gaming habbits its not supposed to be silent, nor 
> > energyefficent.
> > 
> > I am in love with qubes-os for my daily struggles and tasks ;-).
> > 
> > But, i'd appreciate to have a system which won't start up every fan 
> > possible once i start another vm.
> > 
> > So i am looking forward to build a small, energyefficent and silent system, 
> > which will run qubes-os ootb without any problems.
> > 
> > As i happen to be a dad now, busy splitting my time between family, 
> > projects and work. I'd appreciate your guys help for building a 
> > micro/miniATX PC for Qubes OS
> > 
> > Specs:
> > 
> > - +16GB RAM
> > - +512GB SSD
> > - if possible a small nvidia-card for cuda and some occasional gaming. (not 
> > mandatory), 
> > - Dual-Head-Graphics (uHD) is Mandatory
> > - WIFI (Mandatory)
> > 
> > i'd love to build it by using a case comparable to the Thermaltake 
> > CA-1D5-00S1WN-00 Black SPCC Micro ATX 
> > (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2F84EA2140)
> > 
> > 
> > Any ideas? i'd really appreciate your help.
> 
> MORE RAM!
> 
> 16GB is not enough.
> Have 32GB or more as there are many VMs to play with. All of them eat a lot 
> of RAM.
> Think about 4GB per VM if you use 64Bit OS. The 64Bit systems are more 
> wasteful
> with memory as most things are now 8-byte aligned, so any variable uses 
> 8-byte even if it is shorter like char or uint32. Maybe there are some 
> space-optimized libraries but for performance reasons, as 64bit machine works 
> with bigger natural address spacing, the data in RAM will be aligned for the 
> 64bit machine, eating almost double of it!
> Or use 32bit VM Guests for some minor stuff.
> 
> Memory is like engine displacement it can only be substituted by more engine 
> displacement or more memory, respectively

Yeah, got to agree here, there are no diminishing returns when it comes to RAM 
on Qubes OS

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