On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 11:32:05 AM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
> On 08/30/2017 05:17 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >> Please also note that any remote administration command can only
> >> be received through networking, so proper firewalling (ipv6 may
> >> complicate things - prepare your studies in advance) and monitoring
> >> may help great lengths. Also, do avoid using x86-based
> >> firewalls/routers... ;)
> >> 
> >> -- Alex
> > 
> > Just to be clear for beginners - this means that if you're running
> > Qubes on an x86 processor, you cannot trust Qubes as a firewall to
> > prevent IME remote administration.
> > 
> > You would need a separate device to act as a firewall. Most routers
> > have recently been shown to be compromised in similar ways. It will
> > be difficult, but should be possible, to find a device that is secure
> > given current knowledge.
> > 
> 
> You are right. With "proper firewalling" I was implying separate
> physical hardware, and that was the basis for "avoid x86 based firewalls".
> 
> There's no isolation benefit with a software firewall if the remote
> administration packets are received by the local network adapter, since
> the "zombie RAT fungus" (Intel ME) fiddles with PCI devices on its own.
> 
> -- 
> Alex

Does AMD or ARM motherboard have similar feature(like Intel ME)?

Thanks

Dominique

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