On 2017-09-11 12:34, Gaijin wrote:
> On 2017-09-11 10:17, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
>> On 09/11/2017 05:45 AM, Gaijin wrote:
>>
>>> My company forces me to only buy Dell hardware. They're OK with me
>>> running Qubes on my next workstation, but I'm a bit unsure about what
>>> hardware options to choose, and would appreciate any advice.
>> That's pretty lame you can't build your own and get a real mans
>> computer - one that is owner controlled (ex: talos2, kcma-d8/kgpe-d16)
>>> Being uncertain of the Qubes 4.x requirements more than a year ago I put
>>> in a request for a Dell Precision T5810 workstation with:
>>> CPU: Xeon E5-2630 v4 (10 cores)
>>> RAM: 64GB 2400MHz DDR4 RDIMM ECC RAM
>>> Graphics: AMD FirePro W7100
>>>
>>> However, looking at the 4.x requirements page and some forum threads, it
>>> doesn't sound like AMD graphics cards are very Qubes-friendly. My only
>>> other option at this product level is an nVidia Quadro (or AMD Radeon).
>> Nonsense, as with any linux video driver issue it depends on how new
>> the hardware is.
>> The professional series card means you can contact AMD for skilled
>> tech support, I would also get Dell's ProSupport so that you can get
>> an american on the phone.
>>
>> Nvidia is unfriendly to open source and virtualization (on their
>> consumer devices) even more than AMD these days so I wouldn't, I for
>> one dislike recompiling the kernel every time I update an nvidia
>> computer running linux.
>>> I'd like to know if this looks like a good setup to proceed with, or if
>>> I should consider something else (within the Dell lineup/options).
>>>
>>> If I wanted to get a Xeon chip with the built-in Intel Graphics built in
>>> I could look at the Precision 3000 series where they offer machines with
>>> a Xeon E3-1275 with only 4 cores, and a maximum of 64GB RAM. Only
>>> problem there is that I run a lot of simultaneous Qubes, including
>>> Windows, so I was concerned that I couldn't expand the RAM on this
>>> machine in the future if necessary. I'll be stuck with this machine
>>> quite a while, so I wanted to make the most of this purchase.
>> 64gb is fine, if you want to save your (their?) money.
> 
> Yeah, I suggested some other hardware, but they wouldn't budge on that
> point, so I have to make do with Dell. I'll have to save the good stuff
> for the home build...
> 
> So you think I could get away with the AMD graphics card and the E5 Xeon
> setup? Or will I be saving myself a lot of hassle by going with the
> integrated Intel graphics on the slightly lower end processor?
> 
> Part of my motivation here is to hopefully have Qubes up and running on
> this machine without too much hassle...like recompiling kernels or
> spending tons of time with support.

Was wondering about this myself. Are the AMD graphics cards better than
nVidia?

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