On 2017-09-12 22:57, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> On 09/12/2017 06:50 PM, Gaijin wrote:
>> On 2017-09-12 12:46, filtration wrote:
>>> Gaijin:
>>>> On 2017-09-12 05:32, pixel fairy wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 10:31:56 PM UTC-7, pixel fairy wrote:
>>>>>> given that appvms cant use 3d acceleration anyway, your best bet is 
>>>>>> intel graphics. if your going to give a gpu to a vm, then it depends on 
>>>>>> the os of that vm.
>>>>>> last i checked, nvidia is fine with virtualization of quadro cards.
>>>>>> make sure the workstation doesnt have AMT (vpro etc) as bussiness lines 
>>>>>> tend to. you may be safer with what dell would otherwise sell as a 
>>>>>> consumer desktop or gaming rig, minus the fancy graphics card unless 
>>>>>> your going to use it. but, if thats a big part of your work, you may be 
>>>>>> better off with linux + kvm or something else instead of qubes.
>>>>> damn nonlinear editing. that last sentence was supposed to go at the
>>>>> end of the first paragraph.
>>>> Well, the good news is that enabling vPro on a Dell is an extra option
>>>> that you can select (costs $19), so I made sure that selection was off.
>>>> Thanks for the heads up.
>>>> The newer Xeon chips in the E5 Series no longer include on-board
>>>> processor graphics, so Intel graphics isn't an option if I go this
>>>> route. They can handle a lot more RAM (1.2TB vs. 64GB) and have more
>>>> cores (10 vs. 4). There's generally a lot more I could do simultaneously
>>>> with this chip it seems looking at the specs.
>>>> Researching through these forums and even the Qubes Docs there seems to
>>>> be a "stay away from nVidia" theme; That's why I was focusing on the AMD
>>>> graphics card option. Is nVidia Quadro a viable option?
>>>> Using the Dell configurator, and plugging in RedHat Linux 7.2 as the OS
>>>> I find that the very newest AMD FirePro graphics card I selected isn't
>>>> compatible. (I'm assuming RHEL 7.2 is a roughly equivalent to the Fedora
>>>> 23 in dom0) So I dropped down to the older W5100 card and that seemed to
>>>> work for them.
>>>> The graphics aren't really a big part of my work. I just want a box that
>>>> will be ready to run Qubes v4.
>>> Gaijin: Intel GPU is recommended, AMD are second best.
>>> IIRC, Dom0 will be based on Fedora 25 in Qubes 4.0. Try checking AMD's
>>> site (https://support.amd.com/en-us/download) for compatibility reports,
>>> too.
>> Looking at the latest AMD FirePro drivers, they have versions that
>> support RHEL and CentOS, so in turn can I assume one of those might
>> support Fedora as well?
> Yes.
>>   They also seem to have a generic Linux driver
>> for older OS versions.
>> I do see a few AMD FirePro cards in the HCL that seem to be working, but
>> not the specific one I'm looking at, so that's somewhat encouraging...
> Adding your own driver to dom0 wouldn't be difficult if by chance you
> need to, I mod my kernels all the time.

Cheers for the advice!

The hope is that generic video drivers in dom0 will suffice, but good to
know that I could add a driver there, and that one would be available.
I'm feeling a lot better about this AMD card now.

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