On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 12:14:16 PM UTC, Bernhard wrote:
> Hello,
> with your nice help I happily installed Q4.0rc2.  Then I created a bunch
> of debian-8 based appvm's, to copy my data back from the backup. But
> they don't start, finishing with "Cannot execute qrexec-daemon" error. I
> hate that error : no clue where it comes from.   Any hints? Thank you!
> Bernhard
> 
> 
> P.S: First, I thought that this is the annoying but harmless
> "after-tempate-change-xfce-menu-messy"  bug (which forces to go to VM
> settings, remove all Applications, save, go there again, put them back &
> save again to get all symlinks right). But the problem is somewhere else.

I did not read through the link due to short of time atm, but here are some 
suggestions nontheless, as I've encountered similar issues once in Qubes 4.

- Make sure all your VM's are running in HVM mode, in particular if your system 
cannot run in PV mode. Paradoxially, some systems run PV mode just fine in 
Qubes 3.2., but PV stops working in Qubes 4. It doesnt matter anyhow, since HVM 
is the desired mode for now. So just make sure the VM is in HVM. Verify if 
"qvm-prefs VM-name virt_mode" is giving back PV or HVM. Try change it to HVM if 
it rapport back PV.

- Don't use any Qubes 3.2 templates, as they should not have the same Qubes 
tools code in them. 

- Some AppVM's restored from Qubes 3.2. has in my experience been sluggish, 
laggy, and slow. I moved my data, bookmarks, thunderbird profile folder, etc. 
in traditional Linux backup sense, over to a new fresh Qubes 4  AppVM. It 
solved any lag I had, except, sometimes firefox was a bit laggy with 10 or so 
tabs, whereas before I could easily have 40 tabs open. The firefox browser 
update happened around same time, so not sure wihch was the cause. But cleaning 
old firefox data did not fix it, however a clean AppVM did fix it. The issue 
also extened outside firefox to other applications. 

- If you cannot start an AppVM that you restored from the backup, assuming you 
still have the backup available in case anything goes wrong, then try change 
the Debian AppVM to a Fedora AppVM. Then see if you can trasfer your files out 
of the broken AppVM, either via Qubes tools, or passtrough an USB pen/drive and 
transfer it this way. Just be careful, I've been having issues where I was 
unable to disconnect my USB drive from within the old Qubes 3.2. AppVM, when I 
tried to salvage my data from it. Luckily it only caused damage to the last 
file from multiple of different transactions. In case you want to avoid this 
issue, it may be possible to do an extra transfer, with something pointless you 
dont mind loosing, just in case the last transfer made is destroyed when trying 
to disconnect the USB drive. USB works just fine in Qubes 4 AppVM's though, at 
least, that's my experience with it for now. 

Hopefully you don't encounter the worst issues. At least I feel stable on Qubes 
4 now, but its been a bit turbulent. Hopefully you'll be fine too.



Also, is it just me, or does Qubes 4 seem bloody fast in some areas after 
recent updates? Like shutting down VM's for example, it happens almost 
instantly, and various of other places that it seems much faster than Qubes 
3.2. Perhaps its just my mind playing with me. 

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