Thank you both for comments. That must be a *very* slow boot, it is up
for 12h now, and still no xterm available, neither via qubes-menu, nor
via qvm-run in dom0 :)) Anyhow, it seems better to download the template.

How to you get the template name? I could not find any helpful doc on
it, so  I tried guessing the names by browsing deb.qubes-os.org for the
debian branch or yum.qubes-os.org, but this did not help either.

I ask because I'd like to get a fedora-x-minimal or a debian-9-minimal
as strating point for sys-net or sys-usb with minimized attack surface.
Bernhard



On 12/13/2017 02:00 PM, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 12/13/2017 11:02 AM, Westley Argentum Hennigh-Palermo wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 3:14:17 PM UTC-5, haaber wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I cloned the out-of-the-box debian-8 and brought it to debian-9 with
>>> apt-get distupgrade. I halted it. After reboot no way to get a shell, or
>>> anything else (not by qvm-run within dom0 either). Is there a way to get
>>> error messages somewhere?  Thank you, Bernhard
>> Hey, I'd also be interested to know more about getting detailed
>> debugging info, maybe someone can comment on that... but things I do
>> know that might be helpful:
>>
>> - You can get a debian 9 template by running: `sudo qubes-dom0-update
>> qubes-template-debian-9` (see docs here:
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/debian/)
>>
>> - There are some vm logs available at `/var/log/qubes/<vm name>`
>>
> 
> There is issue #2913 about very long boot delay for debian-9. This means
> you have to wait about 2min. before starting programs. A fix is in the
> works, and a workaround is deleting an @service link like so:
> 
> sudo rm /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/wpa_supplicant@.service
> 

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