On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 5:28:12 PM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote:
> On 12/08/2017 04:54 PM, Wael Nasreddine wrote:
> > On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 12:07:56 AM UTC-8, tai...@gmx.com wrote:
> >> On 12/08/2017 02:43 AM, Yethal wrote:
> >>
> >>> W dniu czwartek, 7 grudnia 2017 21:23:18 UTC+1 użytkownik Wael Nasreddine 
> >>> napisał:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm looking to build a new Desktop specifically for Qubes OS, so my most 
> >>>> important requirement is compatibility. I currently have 64GB (4 x 16GB) 
> >>>> 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3400 (PC4 27200)[0] that I'd like to use, and 
> >>>> I'm looking for a recommendation for the motherboard and CPU. Preferably 
> >>>> a 6+ cores CPU. What do you guys use?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm aware of the HCL page, but I'm mostly interested in knowing your 
> >>>> personal experience with your current hardware.
> >>>>
> >>>> [0]: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232264
> >>> Zero issues with i7-6800K on an AsRock X99 board. Has PS/2 port, 
> >>> disabling Management Engine is possible via built in flashing tool, all 
> >>> hardware sensors were detected and it supports PCI-E bifurcation 
> >>> alongside SR-IOV. I'm running Mini-itx version which may be unsuitable 
> >>> for your needs as it only takes 32GB of ram but it would be pretty safe 
> >>> to assume that full-size AsRock X99 motherboards would also be fully 
> >>> compatible with Qubes.
> >> That isn't disabling ME, nor ME cleaner - you can NOT disable ME - it is
> >> impossible even the HAP tool doesn't do so.
> > What's the ME and why disable it?
> >
> >> Your only hope is to buy hardware without it such as the new enough to
> >> be useful Socket G34 and C32 AMD PRE-PSP Systems, boards KGPE-D16 and
> >> KCMA-D8 have libre firmware available and can play video games in a VM
> >> via IOMMU-GFX, they also have dual onboard separate USB controllers (you
> >> can use the second via a breakout bracket)
> > So I looked at both of these boards[0], they take a DDR3 board, but I found 
> > this one[1] that takes DDR4, does it still have opensource firmware?
> >
> > [0]: 
> > https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?CompareItemList=%2D1%7C13%2D131%2D670%5E13%2D131%2D670%2C13%2D131%2D643%5E13%2D131%2D643
> > [1]: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132257
> >
> That is an entirely unrelated motherboard, the only thing in common is 
> that they re-used the model suffix "D16" other than that is is 
> completely different and as it is intel no it can't and it doesn't.
> Just get a KGPE-D16 or KCMA-D8 - they're great boards - not only do they 
> have libre firmware but they also have a secure libre OpenBMC firmware 
> for remote management.
> https://www.raptorengineering.com/coreboot/kgpe-d16-bmc-port-status.php
> The D16 comes with the required BMC module (ASMB4-iKVM or ASMB5-iKVM) 
> but the D8 doesn't.
> Sell your DDR4 RAM, the only thing with open source firmware that 
> accepts DDR4 is the TALOS 2 for $4K - while that is an average price for 
> server hardware in its performance class (actually a good deal compared 
> with intel where a single xeon CPU alone costs thousands and only has 
> one thread per core vs POWER9 8 SMT threads per core) it is still a lot 
> of money unless you have a need for incredible speed and or incredible 
> security (POWER9 is open source hardware and entirely owner owner 
> controlled with no hardware code signing enforcement one can even modify 
> the microcode)

What do you think of this build 
https://screenshots.firefox.com/fHb14uahx7lEeAGe/secure.newegg.com ? I'm still 
missing cooler, power supply and possibly a TPM, I'd love your recommendation 
for these.

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