On 04/01/2018 03:06 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
On Sun, April 1, 2018 6:15 pm, cooloutac wrote:
Doesn't using trim on encrypted drive lessen security though?

In my opinion, it's so marginal a security decrease it hardly bears
mention. :) There's a link in the trim doc for further reading.


I'd like to remind people: Discard and TRIM are not exactly the same thing.

Commands like 'fstrim' only generate discards, and in a Qubes LVM setup those discards will logically deallocate blocks in the pool, thus freeing up space for filesystems.

If you enable 'discard' or 'disktrim' or whatever they call it these days in crypttab, that will result in discards being converted into hardware TRIM commands. That is because the crypto layer is the one closest to the hardware in our configuration.

Does TRIM free up space? No. It helps the SSD maintain top write speeds and perform more efficient wear-leveling. On some drives, it will also cause the unallocated data to be wiped-out (according to vendor claims).

Does fstrim free up space? Yes! Because it actually generates discards and the name is misleading.

IMO, the best thing to do is edit your dom0 /etc/fstab and add 'discard' to the options for root fs '/'. That will free up space in a usable way and you won't need to run fstrim.

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