Le lun. 16 avr. 2018 05:47, awokd <aw...@danwin1210.me> a écrit :

> On Sun, April 15, 2018 12:52 pm, Thierry Laurion wrote:
>
> > Let's start a real debate aimed at improving stuff and building proper
> > arguments. Pressure against manufacturers will build with market laws,
> and
> > energy should be put where things can evolve in the meantime.
>
> I think everyone can agree to this!
>
> > G505s are not powerful and tough enough to run Qubes as a daily
> > driver.
>
> They don't have a titanium frame, but what laptops do these days? I did a
> full Stretch linux-image build in 2.5 hours on one, but that's the
> heaviest work I put it through. With 16GB RAM and a good SSD, they're fast
> enough for what I need.
>
What is your CPU speed? How much lasts the battery? How is the screen? Does
it feel bulky in a backpack?

>
> > ME is a really nasty piece of shit to deal with, agreed. But things needs
> >  to move forward. Hiding in a cave waiting for things to magically happen
> > is not enough.
>
> I think everyone can agree to this too. I posted some thoughts on ways
> forward over on qubes-devel a little while ago
> https://www.mail-archive.com/qubes-devel@googlegroups.com/msg03097.html
> and there were a couple related threads around the same time. Neither
> Intel or AMD seem concerned about actual security, only locking down the
> platform by handing over control of it to manufacturers instead of end
> users.
>
>
>

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