maybe this is a whonix issue. maybe this is a qubes issue. not sure. 

steps...

[user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-create --template debian-9 --label red custom-dvm
[user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-prefs custom-dvm template_for_dispvms True
[user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-features custom-dvm appmenus-dispvm 1

in my case custom-dvm=whonix-14-dvm...

start tor browser...

"Tor Browser is currently not installed.
(Folder /home/user/.tb/tor-browser does not exist.)
Start Tor Browser Downloader (by Whonix Developers)?"

use tor browser downloader by whonix? y
empty response

...

create basic appvm from template as per step 1 above...
qvm-create --template whonix-14-ws --label red whonix-14-dvm

start tor browser...

"Tor Browser is currently not installed.
(Folder /home/user/.tb/tor-browser does not exist.)
Start Tor Browser Downloader (by Whonix Developers)?"

use tor browser downloader by whonix? y

error: tor has not been bootstrapped!

this is a lie. sys-whonix-14 is running and working. 
all whonix docs have been followed such as applying apparmor, disabling various 
things like whonix-check and editing the torrc and firewall files. 

any help, I am thankful!

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