On 04/30/2018 08:09 PM, pixel fairy wrote:

> ready to ditch intel on desktop (and maybe laptop if anyone has a good 
> recommendation) 
>
> my understanding is that some amd lines dont have PSP or any such equivalent 
> to intelME or AMT.
The older stuff like socket g34 and c32.
> about to jump down the rabbit hole of figuring this out. 
>
> has anyone tried ryzen or threadripper? 
They have PSP - impossible to disable it just like ME.
> is there another line worth looking at?
>
> what im looking for,
>
> * no psp, ME, amt etc
> * no speculative execution vulnerabilities (at least no known ones)
You gotta install the latest microcode updates anyways it seems so a
43xx/63xx CPU is what to get with the boards I mentioned.
> * at least 32gigs of ram (yes, i actually use that)
> * at least 8 cores or threads.
> * ps2 mouse/keyboard or more than 1 usb bus.
I would get a KCMA-D8 ($315) or KGPE-D16 ($415) they check all your
boxes and more - they are what all the experts use, leah rowe from
libreboot paid for them to be ported to coreboot-libre a few years ago.
D16 max 192GB RAM with 32 cores, and it also has OpenBMC support, two
separate usb controllers (btw you need breakout cables for second
controller/more ports) etc.

The PS/2 security idea thing is from idiots who have no idea what they
are doing, using PS2 sends all your keystrokes out on the ground wire as
I have mentioned previously.
I would get a unicomp keyboard with trackpad, as then you have input
devices where the firmware can't be internally flashed like most
keyboards can.
> gpu support for tensorflow would be nice, but will probably make a second, 
> dedicated box when that time comes.
>
> free bios support (coreboot, libreboot etc) would be nice too.
>
> and before anyone suggests it, no, im not porting xen to talon.
*Talos 2
It seems you have read my other posts? in that case why do you ask? I
have already answered all these questions many times.
> a laptop like the above would be awsome if its light and has good battery 
> life, but thats not something im going to hold my breath for.
The G505s has 4 cores and 16GB RAM, the FT3 platform is the last and
best x86_64 laptop platform without PSP/ME that supports IOMMU, open
init for ram/cpu etc.
There are a few FT3 coreboot laptops but this is the best supported/most
popular.

I am pleased you are smart enough to avoid the fraudulent companies out
there.

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