On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 2:25 AM, Ivan Mitev <i...@maa.bz> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 05/02/2018 01:10 AM, Franz wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > is it possible to connect sys-usb to network? It seems impossible using
> > Qubes manager on 3.2.
>
> IIRC a VM must be stopped before being able to tweak its NetVM ; did you
> do so before trying to add a NetVM to your sys-usb VM in Qubes manager ?
> Did you also try with command line (`qvm-prefs sys-usb -s netvm
> sys-firewall`) ?
>
>
Your command line works, but does not survives reboot. Also even restarting
it every time, firework cannot be configured because the system still
believe that sys-usb is NOT connected to network, even if it is. So it
seems it is too much complicated.


> > Reason to do that is that sys-usb already has USB controller assigned and
> > this is useful to use USB audio cards and play youtube music with decent
> > quality.
>
> I have more or less the same setup, only that I play music from a local
> NAS.
>
>
> > Is this a security problem? I imagine it is not since sys-usb is already
> > untrusted. It may even be possible to add a firewall rule to connect only
> > to youtube.
>
> Having networking in sys-usb will of course increase your attack surface
> (like "plug bad USB, VM is compromised, $HOME is uploaded to some remote
> site") but indeed, proper firewalling would restrict which sites you're
> able to connect to.
>
> The problem with youtube is that the ip addresses may be changing
> frequently, so simply defining "youtube.com" in your firewall rules may
> not work after some time (see issue #3641 [1]). Alternatively, find
> youtube's (or google) BGP AS number and add all the networks to your fw
> rules [2] ; but there will be quite a lot of them...
>
>
> [1] https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3641
> [2]
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9342782/is-there-a-
> way-to-get-all-ip-addresses-of-youtube-to-block-it-with-
> windows-firew#19385835
>
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