On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 07:05:59AM +0000, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> unman:
> > On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 03:36:09PM +0000, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> > > [email protected]:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm trying to install a VM in HVM mode called HNS (hybrid network 
> > > > simulation).
> > > > 
> > > > Based on Debian, HNS seems to run on KVM/QEMU.
> > > 
> > > Running a hypervisor like KVM inside another hypervisor like Xen is known 
> > > as
> > > "nested virtualization". This is disabled and not supported in Qubes.
> > 
> > I think that gdrub51 is saying that HNS runs under KVM, and they want to
> > run it under Qubes, *not* that they are trying to run KVM within Qubes.
> 
> OK.
> 
> > In any case, I dont believe that nested virtualization is "disabled"
> > under Qubes. Not suppported certainly, but that's different.
> 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/BwQskBAvMtY/AzZQ7Y-NAAAJ
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/Y3P_moY4QN0/PdYhFWCvCAAJ
> 
> Don't believe nestedhvm=1 out of the box. Ergo, it's disabled (at least for
> type 1 hypervisors). :)
> 

Those discussions are pretty old, and no longer apply to the current
situation.

nestedhvm=1 is a parameter set at the VM level. It need not be set to
get nested virtualization in Qubes4.0

I regularly run Qubes nested, both Live images and installed HVMs, and
it requires no special parameter setting. Both Live and installed work
out of the box - there's certainly nothing disabled. 

unman

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