On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 9:11:34 PM UTC-8, John Smiley wrote:
> I've been having head-banging issues with 4.0 and 4.0.1-rc1 ever since I 
> became a fledgling Qubes user a few weeks ago.  I never did get Qubes working 
> well with Whonix 14 on the desktop.  
> 
> When 4.0.1-rc2 came out the other day, I made a new bootable USB stick with 
> it and replaced Ubuntu on my Thinkpad T480 with it.  It booted and installed 
> without a hitch.  Perfect first use impression (minus a point for nagging 
> about template updates that aren't there).
> 
> Then I decided to do a reinstall (for the N thousanth time) on my X299-based 
> desktop.  4.0.1-rc2 fired right up.  No problems whatsoever.  It works like I 
> expected 4.0 and 4.0.1-rc1 to work.
> 
> Then for the really impressive part.  I have a Caldigit TS3 Plus that I like 
> to use to move all of the wire mess to it and have a single Thunderbolt3 wire 
> running from it to the T480.  It provides lots of things but I use it for 
> power to my laptop (replacing the brick), Ethernet, Displayport for a second 
> monitor, and USB 3.1.  After the 4.0.1-rc2 install went so well, I decided to 
> plug that bad boy in and watch Qubes fall to the ground writhing in agony. 
> 
> My expectations were not met.  4.0.1-rc2 handled it like a champ.  I had to 
> do some minor fiddling with the display settings to get the second monitor 
> working via DP and after a bit of hunting around, I discovered that all I had 
> to do to get Ethernet working was to add the new Ethernet controller it saw 
> to sys-net.  Shutdown the Whonix GW and sys-firewall, reboot sys-net, restart 
> sys-firewall and the Whonix GW, plug in my Ethernet cable and voila.  It 
> works!
> 
> Now the first question that comes to mind is, how much security did I throw 
> out the window when I plugged that Thunderbolt 3 hub in?

Oh and one more thing.  Everything installed with default settings.  No 
fiddling with kernelopts to get the Debian-9 template to boot on the X299 
desktop by setting noxsave.

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