On Monday, December 24, 2018 at 2:37:30 PM UTC-7, John Smiley wrote:
> On Sunday, December 23, 2018 at 10:06:26 PM UTC-8, will.w77 wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So I'm attempting to install qubes to a usb stick. I've copied the iso onto 
> > the usb by using the dd command specified in the user documentation in 
> > ubuntu virtualbox (host os windows 10). I'm wondering if the fact I used a 
> > virtual machine to copy the iso versus a native linux os makes any 
> > difference? I attempted to boot into the bios on my lenova t430 and nothing 
> > happens when I go to boot. The boot menu comes up I select the usb and hit 
> > enter and the screen simply refreshes with the boot menu again. Again I've 
> > used linux before and can run basic command line but am a novice compared 
> > to most in this group I'm sure. Any ideas? Thanks
> 
> Copying ISO images to USB sticks with dd in a virt can certainly be done, but 
> there are things that could have gone awry.  If the reason you're using a 
> virt is to get an isolated environment, there are any number of live Linux 
> distros that you can boot into and then create your Qubes Boot USB.
> 
> Of course, you'll still have to create a USB from an ISO to make the live 
> Linux USB. :)
> 
> Are you sure you ran sync after dd and let it finish?

I tried the USB install. It worked, but was phenomenally slow for me.  It took 
over 5 hours for the install to take place on a 128gb PNY USB 3.0 stick.  And 
it would take 20 minutes to boot up.

After buying an Samsung 970 m.2 SSD and installing on their, I realize why the 
USB option is so slow.  The amount of work the OS has to do on the filesystem 
is so extensive it is just slow. USB 3.0 is better than 2.0 (I heard there may 
be a bug or issue where Qubes operates as if a 3.0 drive were actually a 2.0 
drive?).  I would say the USB option is not really a viable option (at least 
from my experience). If anything I would suggest trying a thunderbolt 3 drive. 
But, not sure what sort of driver issues you would have.

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