On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 1:43:28 AM UTC-5, haaber wrote: > >> cooloutac: > >> > >>> The reason why I say privacy and anonymity are two diff things. And way > >>> apart from security. is For example if I log into a facebook .onion site. > >>> Its still my identity. All that information about you is still being > >>> sold to ad agencies. Governments are still watching it. The only > >>> benefit I can see, is again, people hiding their location for fear of > >>> their life or imprisonment. > >> > >> You listed one of the more common Tor benefits in your own paragraph- > >> many people also use it for every day browsing to avoid most of that > >> commercial information gathering and resale. > > > > Meanwhile you are taking up bandwidth from people who are fearing for their > > life or imprisonment. Maybe you're getting someone killed to stick it to > > the ad agencies. Seems selfish and silly to me, and not a reason to be > > using tor. > > > > I cannot follow your argument. On the contrary: one cannot well hide > inside a system that contains *only* people who need to hide, right? > Correlations of users and packets are too high and one is immediately > uncovered. This means that a good amount of traffic is literally > *needed* so that some people who rely on it have a chance to disappear > in the haystack ! Using the tor network for standard browsing is > therefore good, and encouraged. It is also encouraged to support the tor > infrastructure (by a donation, for example) :))
well thats a good point. and you do need people around the world to use it I guess even in countries of people that do not fear imprisonment. The thing is so slow though that i'm sure people die every day relying on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/dcff89b7-0f5c-4065-bf3a-5786841d9c07%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
