On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 3:41 PM Chris Laprise <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 3/3/19 2:56 AM, Aaron wrote:
> > Unfortunately I don't have that option in BIOS. There is no way I can
> > disable Nvidia chip.
> >
> > An average user won't deal with that much complication during
> > installation and this is probably a huge barrier to convert many users
> > from other OS to Qubes.
> >
> > I hope to see Qubes finding an easy solution for this issue.
>
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> Please post replies to the bottom, not the top.
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>
> Unfortunately, if Nvidia is secretive and only cooperates fully with
> Microsoft, then there is no way to reliably make such complex hardware
> 'just work'... too much is unknown and left to guessing.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia#Open-source_software_support
>
> Its situations like this where people discover that hardware is not some
> ideal blank slate, requiring programmers to only put in the right amount
> of effort to get satisfactory results. Detailed information about
> accessing hardware features is necessary.
>
> And if your laptop maker forces you to use Nvidia then your only option
> (for that machine) is to try to troubleshoot the specific compatibility
> issues you're experiencing.
>
> Consumers who value open source do have better GPU choices such as AMD
> and Intel. They might even contact Nvidia (who are very wealthy BTW) to
> ask them to support Linux instead of pretending the onus is on Linux or
> Qubes developers.
>
> OTOH, people who don't want to think much about their computers (and
> their role as a consumer) or who don't value open source and the goodies
> it offers (like Qubes security) can remain comfortable with Nvidia
> hardware ...if they go back to Windows.
>
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>
> Chris Laprise, [email protected]
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I understand. It's definitely frustrating.

I'm definitely new to Qubes, but I'm just wondering... I'm able to install
Ubuntu on the
same machine. I had to install Nvidia driver after Ubuntu installation was
done and it
wasn't a big deal. It took a few mins to handle. At least, I was able to
switch to shell (with Ctrl-Alt-F2)
and install Nvidia drivers at the last stage of the installation, at user
login stage.

How does Ubuntu handle a similar issue, at least until hitting the login
stage, without any configuration?

Aaron

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