On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 06:31:07PM +0000, Jon deps wrote: > On 3/19/19 4:59 PM, Steven Walker wrote: > > I am still pretty new to Qubes. I have managed to create a new qube, but I > > want to install some software for use with this qube. I have read that it > > has to be installed to the template and not the actual qube. As the > > template has no actual network connection, how do I go about this? > > > > Using 4.0.1, Fedora 29 > > > > Any help greatly appeciated. > > > > Steve > > > > pretty sure, there are different ways to skin the cat, though > > > the Templates are designed to obtain access indirectly, that is what the > "salt" stuff is they talk about ....it seems by default to be setup to use > sys-whonix-14 to install updates , somewhat magically > > you can actually change the netvm without shutting down the templates > > generally it's bad form to give the templates direct access, though may > you might want to once in while in order to troubleshoot something , etc > .....testing it the morning , you should be able to install non updates > without Direct access > > > > for me Templates aren't worth backing up , I'm not worried about my > system melting down much ..... and anyway its going to be best to fresh > install , which is easy-ist in Qubes, which is one of the beauties of the > technology .... > > hence, I clone for other reasons > > one word of advice is keep a paper list of custom packages you install > so when it goes to Fedora-30 you install fresh and then add back fresh > packages , your files will persist, > > > my problem what few files I have end up spread out over 10 App Qubes >
It's only if you selected the "update over Whonix" option on install that you get updating using sys-whonix qube. It's not the default. Salt doesnt have anything to do with the "indirect" access - the access is using qubes-rpc to the UpdateProxy - the proxy to use is set in /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdateProxy. You can change the proxy to use by editing that file. You *can* use salt to install software in to the templates. If you do this then you need only maintain the salt formula and you can easily recreate a template, without having to keep a paper list. That's an ideal way of using salt to configure your systems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190324022714.q3dwlyogduwbsohn%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.