On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 12:03:18 PM UTC-4, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 5/13/19 9:36 AM, alexw8...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hello, I am trying to achieve this: User -> VPN -> Tor -> Internet
> > 
> > This is my setup in qubes:
> > 
> > fedora-29-vpn (templatevm- has openvpn installed)
> > 
> > VPN-appvm (has openvpn running in it.  It is using fedora-29-vpn 
> > template)------> vpn-sys-whonix(ProxyVM based on whonix-gw-14 template and 
> > its NETVM is VPN-appVM------>Internet AppVM(based on template whonix-ws-14. 
> >  Its NETVM is set as vpn-sys-whonix).
> 
> You might double-check this diagram. It doesn't look right. I would 
> expect something more like: Anon1(whonix-ws)-->VPN(fedora or 
> debian)-->sys-whonix(whonix-gw)-->sys-net.

wouldnt this way be User -> TOR -> VPN -> Internet?  Sorry if it was a bit 
confusing my explanation of the setup. maybe this is better explained.

whonix-ws -->Whonix-gw---->sys-vm------>sys-firewall
Internet                                      VPN             


Internet(NETVM=vpn-sys-whonix)---->vpn-sys-whonix(NETVM=sys-vm)----->sys-vm 
(NETVM=sys-firewall)
             (whonix-ws template)                                         
(whonix-gw template)                (fedora-29-vpn template)
> 
> It also matters precisely where you are checking for DNS packets.
> 
> > 
> > I have been following this guide 
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vpn/#set-up-a-proxyvm-as-a-vpn-gateway-using-iptables-and-cli-scripts
> >  when I was setting up VPN-appvm which I followed to a tee and completed 
> > without too much trouble.
> > 
> > The Issue is,  I have DNS leaks by doing some online DNS checks with 
> > VPN-appvm.  Any Idea why/how to possibly fix this.
> 
> A vpn vm may still send out DNS packets in the clear to look up its own 
> servers. Beyond that, you shouldn't see any.
> 
> You can try a more thorough vpn setup here:
> 
> https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-vpn-support
> 
> This will check that the anti-leak firewall rules are in place before 
> starting the vpn client, and generally keep the link running more smoothly.

I can try this method see the difference.
> 
> However, I should note there is at least one issue open there for Fedora 
> 29 weirdness. In general, I recommend using Debian (which is what Whonix 
> is based on) as it has been better behaved than Fedora overall. Its also 
> the case that Fedora is intended to be a testbed, NON-production OS and 
> Qubes has plans to migrate away from it.

Yes I can switch over to debian and see if that fixes the problem aswell.
> 
> You should also read the vpn-related sections of the Whonix docs; There 
> are tradeoffs to using a vpn with Whonix.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net
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