O K:
Thanks for all the help but I've been trying to figure out how to get Qubes
running for months and I've decided it's just a giant waste of my time
because every time I get one bug fixed, two more show up to take it's
place.  I think it's a brilliant idea but it needs a lot of work and
streamlining before it's ready for public use.  It's a shame because my
privacy and anonymity online are a matter of my personal safety and it
would be nice to have a secure OS.  TAILS is not a fully usable system
either.  I will have to install Ubuntu.  Good luck, everyone.

Hi,

Qubes definitely has a learning curve, but i think it's worth it (and i'm definitely no linux expert).

But if you don't want to use qubes, one thing you can do for better security and privacy is install debian/ubuntu and use non-qubes whonix (you can use virtualbox, which is pretty easy to use). You can have multiple whonix workstations, and you can create other VMs like debian as well to compartmentalize your workflows. A solution like this is more insecure than qubes, but definitely less insecure than just using bare metal debian/ubuntu for everything. You still get the benefits of virtualization and compartmentalization, but without the extra security features of qubes (i'd recommend not using the host os for anything directly, and doing everything in VMs).

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