On Wednesday, 3 March 2021 at 23:40:55 UTC+8 stevenlc...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 9:28 AM lok...@gmail.com <lok...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 3 March 2021 at 18:18:09 UTC+8 Mike Keehan wrote:
>> I could not clone the fedora 33 templates, with a similar error message 
>>> about "not clean", until I started and stopped the template. It's been 
>>> OK since then. 
>> I don't think that's the problem I'm facing, as I have restarted the 
>> template several times in order to do manual updates.
> In the F33 template announcement there were some mention about the update 
> control dvm needing to be updated to fedora-33 for the qubes update process 
> to work correctly. Updates will work right out of the box from the dnf 
> command line even without that change. Did you already follow this guidance

Thank you for the tip. I thought I had followed those recommendations, but 
I had missed the management VM template change. Changing this fixed the 
problem. Sorry for the noise.

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