In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tom Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Danny Mayer wrote:
>> 
>> I've spent a lot of time debugging this stuff. The fact is that if a 
>> server is not reachable in the first place it won't show up in the 
>> scoreboard and there is no association created. A refid of 0.0.0.0 
>> doesn't mean a lot since we don't know what kind of ntp is responding to 
>> the requests. Other implementations may not even set the refid. We don't 
>> know since that not a piece of information we've been given.
>> 
>
>At least through 4.2.0a, as long as a configured server has an address it
>will show up on the billboard whether it's reachable or not. The only thing
>that keeps it off is a name that doesn't resolve.

I'll raise you one, here is ntp-dev-4.2.0b-20050926:

     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==============================================================================
 10.1.1.234      .INIT.          16 u    -   64    0    0.000    0.000   0.002
 10.1.1.235      .INIT.          16 u    -   64    0    0.000    0.000   0.002
 10.1.1.236      .INIT.          16 u    -   64    0    0.000    0.000   0.002

It has surely never received a packet from any of those "servers", since
they simply don't exist.

> I really wouldn't want to
>see it any other way. Otherwise, if your server happens to be down when you
>start, it will never be used.

Absolutely agreed. And even if ntpd kept trying them without showing
them in 'ntpq -p' it would be a loss I think.

--Per Hedeland
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