Dave Baxter wrote:
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
David Lord wrote:
Hi

Latest experiment is to attempt to make a backup PPS source and
I've now made a start with a watch xtal oscillator and divider
that can be synchronised by a PPS source when present (except
I've not yet wired up for synchronisation).

remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ============================================================================== +GPS_NMEA(0) .GPSb. 0 l 57 64 377 0.000 1.865 0.381 oPPS(0) .PPSb. 1 l - 16 377 0.000 -0.004 0.002 PPS(2) .OSCc. 1 l 10 16 377 0.000 1.859 0.006 -k6x400.home.lor 192.168.59.64 2 u 3 64 377 0.951 3.837 0.447 +me6000g.home.lo .MSFa. 1 u 29 64 377 0.905 3.190 0.451 -p4x2400c.home.l 192.168.59.64 2 u 34 64 377 0.832 3.078 0.343

PPS(2) was time1 fudged to get it < 2ms.

I can see there being problems already with full rotation of trim
cap giving about +/- 6 us/s variation and temperature changes
have already shown a minor problem (south facing window, very hot
day, rapidly going cold tonight). Of course putting the whole
oscillator module in a temperature controlled box is in the plan.

Earlier this afternoon I had trimmer set so that offset change
between poll periods was < +1us, but that started increasing and
change has now reversed direction with offset over last hour
having dropped from 1867us, steps at 6min intervals being:
  -31 -43 -54 -61 -59 -60 -58 -60 -59 -68 -75 -76us
ie total 0.63ms over last hour.
peerstats for yesterday:
           ident   cnt     mean    rms     max
127.127.22.0     5237   -0.003  0.039   0.217   GPSb pps
127.127.22.2     5236  -10.938  4.678  11.263   OSCc pps

I guess temperature variation over period has been < 15C
to > 25C.


Take care, varicap diodes have significant tempco's too, and pot's can become very noisy after a while, even if you don't physicaly mess with them! We have lots of trouble with multi turn presets that set High Voltage PSU levels here at the salt mine. Seems a common thing, as I remember similar things when I worked at Tek UK years (cough... decades) back.

Perhaps a fixed slightly wrong frequency from the oscillator and
multiplier/divider PLL for frequency adjustment?

or even an old fashion beehive trimmer cap or plunger type,
neither of which seem to be listed in electronics catalogs.


David

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