On Nov 12, 11:17 pm, Chuck Swiger <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, Harry--
>
> On Nov 12, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Harry wrote:
>
> > What I haven't been able to figure out is...
> >  1. How/Where to locate a public/remote NTP server that supports MD5 
> > authentication?
>
> http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/WebSearch?search=MD5&scope=al...
>
> ...suggests:
>
>  http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/TimexCsColumbiaEdu
>  http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/SeskuPlaneacionNet
>
> You could also ask your ISP.
>
> >  2. How would the administrator of this NTP server (a human)
> > distribute the keys to me: Via email? Via Phone/Fax?
>
> You'd probably have to contact the NTP admin and coordinate a method.
>
> >  3. Having received the keys even by secure means such as email/phone/
> > fax, what is stopping me from going rogue later... say, by using the
> > key values of the authentic server and distributing wrong time? (I
> > won't of course actually go rogue, just trying to understand.)
>
> The effect would be similar to any falseticker, whether deliberately serving 
> rogue time or by accident.  By configuring 4 (or more) NTP 
> servers,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzullo%27s_algorithmallows you to 
> reliably discard 1 (or more) falsetickers.  In point of fact, the NTP pool 
> project uses a scoring mechanism to track the time offsets of servers in the 
> NTP pool, and will drop servers if their clocks drift out of sync with real 
> time.
>
> > Can somebody please explain this in plain English?
>
> Sure.  Almost nobody bothers implementing autokey or MD5 security for NTP 
> because (a) ntpd is quite good at discarding bad timeservers, (b) people 
> running NTP timeservers tend to implement monitoring to alert them if a 
> server is messing up-- perhaps by participating in the NTP pool, or using 
> Nagios or some similar monitoring, and finally (c) people who really care 
> about NTP setup a stratum-0 timesource like a GPS receiver, WWV/WWVB radio 
> clock receiver, or even rubidium/cesium atomic clocks.
>
> Regards,
> --
> -Chuck

Chuck, I found your information as well as insights useful. Thanks!

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