On 12/28/2011 12:09 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> Danny Mayer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 12/27/2011 8:48 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> Danny Mayer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On 12/24/2011 8:10 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> John Hasler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> The open sky nearest the OPERA detector is straight up through 1400m of
>>>>>>> rock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Pennino writes:
>>>>>>> And the easiest open sky to get to is horizontally down the tunnel to
>>>>>>> the entrance which is next to a freeway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, the entrance is next to a freeway.  The entrance to the LNGS
>>>>>> facility where the OPERA detector is located is near the middle of the
>>>>>> 10 km long Gran Sasso highway tunnel.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bottom line is that the only thing that is relevant is how easy it is
>>>>> to get to a GPS antenna with an open view of the sky.
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything else is bloviation.
>>>>
>>>> GPS is not used for this kind of thing, they are too inaccurate, so it
>>>> doesn't matter. They use atomic clocks.
>>>>
>>>> Danny
>>>
>>> How do you measure distance with an atomic clock?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That's a complex question. GPS (even the military version) is not
>> accurate enough.
>>
>> Danny
> 
> No, it is not complex; you can't measure distance with an atomic clock.
> 
> An atomic clock is used to measure time intervals.
> 
> As for GPS, it is pretty trivial these days to determine an absolute location
> to parts of a centimeter for a fixed location.
> 

There's no such thing as an absolute location. See Einstein.

Danny

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