On 2012-01-10, David J Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> "David Woolley" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
> news:[email protected]...
> []
>> To the extent those constraints don't apply and both ends are terminated 
>> well above the characteristic impedance, the output voltage actually 
>> goes up in a staircase, with the steps being the round trip time.
>>
>> Some other mistermination conditions cause a ringing approach to the 
>> final value, which is why it is better to operate with a high impedance 
>> load, and therefore capacitive characteristics.
>
> I wish Chris would just look at the remote signal with a 'scope!  A wide 

Needs a reasonably good scope. 

> pulse over the length of line he talks about should be no problem at all 
> (but a microsecond-wide pulse might).  The timing PPS I've seen are in the 
> tens of milliseconds wide.  If there is overshoot, perhaps a capacitor to 

Did you mean 10s of ns? The Sure width is about 5-10ns. at the card
without any line attached. The line could certainly broaden that up to
about 1us, but ms?  
Even the Garmin 18 is less than a usec.

 

> slow things down might help, or on the other hand, if the edge is too slow 
> providing a better match might help.
>
> Of course, "clean" transmission does rely as I said before on each signal 
> being provided with its own ground in the twisted pair, a point also made 
> by Bill Unruh.  For PPS a screened 50-ohm coax cable is not needed except 
> in extra ordinary circumstances (exceptional noise or sub-microsecond 
> accuracy).  Even level converters may not be needed - even though the 
> specification says so.  Many RS-232 ports work just fine with TTL levels.
>
> Cheers,
> David 
>

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