[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:41:46 PM UTC-5, unruh wrote:
My two machines are somewhat different: "oldbox" is running NTP 4.2.2 as ships with 
RedHat 5.7; "newbox" is running NTP 4.2.4 as ships with RedHat 6.3.
Why?

Because oldbox has a lot of other custom functions that haven't been validated 
against the newer OS.  newbox does only NTP, so we're not stuck with the older 
version.


Plots would be good. Plot the offset vs time from the peerstats file. You might discover that your understanding is wrong.


Currently I'm not generating a peerstats file, but will change that after 
business hours this evening.

I'm measuring the offset via "ntpdate -q <peer ntp server>"
Very silly way of doing it, esp since your machine measures the offset
every few minutes already.

Where can I access this information?  I assume from the peerstats file?  Or is 
there another mechanism for querying this pre-existing data?

There is a mass of documentation with most of ntpd
releases. Try <www.ntp.org>

There are some utilities with the distributions. I call
summary.sh from cron each night and that script gives
a summary of loopstats, peerstats and clockstats.



Is it possible there is a hardware problem with newbox?  I don't really 
understand NTP well enough to know where to start looking.
It is possible. What operating system is on newbox? And it could be that
something on the box is resetting the clock behind ntpd's back.

newbox is running Redhat (CentOS actually) 6.3.

How can I determine if something else is messing with the clock?

You can expect offsets of the order of 10-20microseconds IF the ntp
servers get their time from gps. If not, the servers themselves can be
woggling all over the place.

Is there any way to determine if the ntp servers are using GPS or not?

Thanks again.


$ ntpq -crv -p me6000g
associd=0 status=0615 leap_none, sync_ntp, 1 event, clock_sync,
version="ntpd 4.2.6p5-o Wed Feb  1 07:49:06 UTC 2012 (import)",
processor="i386", system="NetBSD/6.1_STABLE", leap=00, stratum=2,
precision=-18, rootdelay=0.725, rootdisp=11.089, refid=192.168.59.61,
reftime=d55326e2.5822c70b  Fri, May 31 2013 13:40:50.344,
clock=d55328c1.b2d725b5  Fri, May 31 2013 13:48:49.698, peer=25540, tc=6,
mintc=3, offset=0.520, frequency=-49.924, sys_jitter=0.458,
clk_jitter=0.122, clk_wander=0.010, tai=35, leapsec=201207010000,
expire=201306280000
     remote       refid    st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
========================================================================
+SHM(0)          .MSFa.     1 l   26   64  267    0.000   -0.652   1.176
-ns1.lordynet.or xxxxxxxxx  3 u   60   64  376    0.229    1.657   0.019
-ns3.lordynet.or xxxxxxxxx  3 u    2   64  377    0.354    1.683   0.058
-ns0.lordynet.or xxxxxxxxx  3 u   60   64  377    0.697    1.635   0.541
*me6000e.home.lo .PPSb.     1 u   21   64  377    0.725    0.520   0.457
-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx  2 u   13  256  377   18.766    2.822   0.159
-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx  2 u  101  256  377   20.567    2.689   0.347
+xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx  2 u  135  256  377   26.693    2.044   0.290
-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx  2 u   76  256  377   27.286    2.523   0.247
-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx  2 u  257  256  377   42.265    3.263   0.243

$ ntpq -crv -p me6000e
associd=0 status=01fd leap_none, sync_pps, 15 events, kern,
version="ntpd 4.2.6p5-o Wed Feb  1 07:49:06 UTC 2012 (import)",
processor="i386", system="NetBSD/6.1_STABLE", leap=00, stratum=1,
precision=-18, rootdelay=0.000, rootdisp=1.655, refid=PPSb,
reftime=d55328c6.b349da0b  Fri, May 31 2013 13:48:54.700,
clock=d55328f6.f6f18593  Fri, May 31 2013 13:49:42.964, peer=54815, tc=6,
mintc=3, offset=-0.001, frequency=-35.098, sys_jitter=0.004,
clk_jitter=0.001, clk_wander=0.005, tai=35, leapsec=201207010000,
expire=201306280000
     remote       refid    st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
========================================================================
*GPS_NMEA(2)     .GPSb.     4 l   50   64  377    0.000    7.655   8.881
oPPS(2)          .PPSb.     0 l   48   64  377    0.000   -0.001   0.004
+ns0.lordynet.or xxxxxxxxx  3 u   39   64  377    1.697    1.597   0.579
 ns2.lordynet.or 192.168.5  2 u   48   64  377    0.549   -0.339   0.518
+ns1.lordynet.or xxxxxxxxx  3 u   45   64  377    1.122    1.141   0.345
+ns3.lordynet.or xxxxxxxxx  3 u   29   64  377    0.750    1.467   0.477
+xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx  2 u   88  256  377   19.418    2.451   0.666

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