On 27/11/2013 17:48, Martin Burnicki wrote:
David Taylor wrote:
Thanks, Martin, that's most interesting. I can get nothing like that
performance from my Win-7 systems, although they are all connected via
Wi-Fi which doesn't help. I've just changed the order in my MRTG
presentation to show XP, versus Vista, Win-7, and Win-8. As you'll
see, there's nothing like the smooth graph you got from Win-7, although
these are offsets reported by NTP rather than measurements against a PCI
reference like yours. However, the offset scale is different, as I have
a range of +/- 3 milliseconds, and your is +/- 30 milliseconds, so
perhaps your noise would be the same as mine once the graph was scaled.
OK, here's another graph from the same data, with +/- 3 ms time offset
range, but a longer time:
http://support.ntp.org/people/burnicki/windows/bug2328_workaround_fine.pdf
My setup is using a Linux NTP server on a local LAN, connected via
cable, so I'd expect this yields a better accuracy than a WiFi connection.
Also, the time offset is not the offset reported by ntpq -p, but the
offset of the Windows system time (disciplined by ntpd) compared to the
time from a built-in GPS PCI card.
Maybe my Win-7 systems are the unaffected ones?
Possibly.
We have also seen setups (under Windows) where time synchronization is
very smooth versus systems where time synchronization steps back and
forth by 1 ms or so. My *assumption* is that a possible reason could be
the sign and/or the absolute mean frequency offset, which may cause
rounding errors or so in the Windows kernel when converting 1 ms ticks
to nominal tick adjustment count which is 15.6 ms, or vice versa.
Did the one you tested have any NTP environment variables set, to
enable/disable interpolation etc. etc.?
No, I just used the default installation, and replaced the binaries later.
Martin
Plenty to think about there, Martin! I will see if I can move a Linux
server (Raspberry Pi with GPS/PPS) to be next to the Win-7/64 system
under test (PC Molde) and have it sync to that server. I did check and
I have no environment variables set either. This is an Intel Atom
system, and I should check the BIOS that no power-saving, frequency
changing measures are in place.
I wish I could say it was all fixed in Windows-8, but it /is/ better there.
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Cheers,
David
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