Wow,
You have a delay of 41.062 ms within a switched network ? 
This is pretty high.
I am typically below 0.5 ms and about 2 ms into the Internet. 
Maybe you should look for network issues first.

// Hans



-----Original Message-----
From: questions [mailto:questions-bounces+mayer=iiasa.ac...@lists.ntp.org] On 
Behalf Of mister_...@voila.fr
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 11:42 PM
To: questions@lists.ntp.org
Subject: [ntp:questions] Impossible to "ntpdate" a client using an orphan mode 
server

Hello,
my network is quite simple : 1 server and 2 clients linked by an ethernet 
switch.

Server configuration (@IP 10.1.1.21):
tos orphan 12

Clients have the same config :
server 10.1.1.21 iburst

On both client 1 & 2, ntpq -p shows something like:
remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter 
==============================================================================
*10.1.1.21 127.0.0.1 2 u 307 12 377 41.062 0.504 0.877

I think the "*" shows that server is correctly configured and operational. 
Clients 1 & 2 have selected server (10.1.1.10) as reference and their clocks 
are synchronized to server's one.

Next, I stop ntpd on client 1 and I try to synchronize to 10.1.1.21 using 
ntpdate :
# killall ntpd
# ntpdate -b 10.1.1.21
22 Jun 21:22:00 ntpdate[3791]: no server suitable for synchronization found

The result is the same on client2. I tried with several machines (I replace the 
server by two others machines, same for client) and it is always the same... My 
problem is that I use lot of scripts forcing time sync using ntpdate and of 
course, they are not working any more... I cannot understand why ntpdate always 
refuses to synchronize to an "orphan mode server". This mode causes important 
regression compared to "old" undisciplined local clock driver...
Please, could you help me making orphan mode and ntpdate working together ? 
because undisciplined local clock driver is OK with ntpdate but too long to 
select local clock as reference on server side.
Regards
Gwen

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