On 2017-01-31 22:55, sean wrote:
> On 2017-01-30, David Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 30/01/2017 04:13, sean wrote:
>>> I'm real interested in NTP and accurate time, hence why I'm on this
>>> newsgroup. I would like to look into getting a time sensor and I hear
>>> the Garmin GPS 18X is what some folks run unless they need much more
>>> precision. Is this still a pretty well regarding GPS unit for pretty
>>> accurate (I know that's highly subjective) time keeping? This would be
>>> a hobbyist thing and I'm not running an important business, if you were
>>> going to ask.
>>> Next question...Do most folks here use the NTPD client, or it is a
>>> mixture of Chrony and openNTPD? Maybe some folks just go with what ships
>>> with their OS?
>>> The comparison chart is pretty nice and lays each option out nicely:
>>> https://chrony.tuxfamily.org/comparison.html
>>> I think that's all for now. Feel free to provide any URLs to any
>>> resources I should check out about time sycing, NTP, etc.
>> I have been running NTP on multiple systems since 2002, including Linux 
>> and Windows (2000 and later), both with hardware sync (GPS18, GPS18x and 
>> multiple GPS devices for the Raspberry Pi), and with LAN and Wi-Fi 
>> network sources.  I find NTP easy to manage and monitor over multiple 
>> systems, and the fact that it runs on Windows, and can accept GPS 
>> devices on Windows very valuable.  You can easily get within 10 
>> microseconds in Linux (but be careful of the temperature and GPS antenna 
>> location), and within 200 microseconds on Windows when using an attached 
>> GPS/PPS device.
> Thank you for the reply. I found your website about 3 weeks ago and got
> the urge to checkout GPS devices, like the GPS18, Raspberry pi options,
> etc. Thank you for it and all of the graphs. You certainly have many Pis
> keep track of the time! I don't recall, are you apart of the NTP Pool?
> I found your website to have a wealth of great information that's quite
> well compiled and thoughout. I hope your health is much better this
> year and that you're on the road to recovery.
> Primarily I run FreeBSD and was surprised to learn that it can have
> better precision than Linux, although the articles I read were FreeBSD
> 8.0 era. Do you find FreeBSD generic kernel comparable with Linux? From
> what it sounds like, a Raspberry Pi with the device below will give me
> "pretty accurate" (my words) time, which I can use to sync my devices in
> my home.
>>    http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_ntp.php
>> For the Raspberry Pi:
>> https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=81
> That's pretty well priced, cheaper than the Garmin

For that and the below you also need power supply, antenna, and interface.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trimble-Resolution-T-Timing-GPS-module-12ns-1pps/252474351979

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UBLOX-LEA-5T-high-precision-timing-GPS-module-dev-board-1PPS-USB-RS232-ntp-ser/251785217093

For easy as Pi there's the GPS HAT:

https://www.adafruit.com/product/2324

which works fine on the Pi3 if you disable BT or switch BT to 
the mini-uart with a DT overlay despite AdaFruit statement 
(do web search for Adafruit Ultimate GPS HAT Pi3 NTP).

Cheapest Garmin 18x LVC I have found anywhere is US$60 (shipping 
extra) from my local dealer who also ships world wide from LV, NV:

http://www.gpscity.com/garmin-gps-18x-high-sensitivity-lvc.html
http://www.gpscity.ca/garmin-gps-18x-high-sensitivity-lvc.html

I run both of the above and average offset is low us with offset 
spiking up to about +/-50us, probably temperature swings. 

-- 
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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