Hi Spencer, (Speaking as the person presenting MASQUE at the QUIC Multipath interim) The goal here was solely to give a very brief overview of what MASQUE is and in what ways it interacts with multipath. Anyone that has been interested in MASQUE will most likely not learn much from that 5min talk.
David On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 7:20 AM Spencer Dawkins at IETF < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Lars, > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 9:06 AM Lars Eggert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 2020-10-22, at 16:10, Spencer Dawkins at IETF < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > I see that >> https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/blob/master/interim-20-10/agenda.md >> now has "MASQUE cross pollination (10 min)". >> > >> > Thank you for adding that to the agenda (it was a surprise to me, but a >> pleasant surprise). >> >> sorry for the surprise - Lucas and I talked, and since several of the use >> cases appear to reply on using QUIC to provide tunnels in some form (as you >> noted), we thought it would be useful to summarize what MASQUE offers. >> > > Oh, it was a pleasant surprise! I haven't been following MASQUE as closely > as some other things, but haven't seen discussion of the MASQUE charter > item "Impacts on address migration, NAT rebinding, and future multipath > mechanisms of QUIC are not anticipated. However, the working group should > document these impacts, or those of any other QUIC developments, if they > arise" yet, and I'm sure that's because QUIC hasn't been working on > multipath mechanisms because we were finishing QUICv1. > > >> > It would be helpful if SOMEONE -whether the QUIC chairs, since this is >> a QUIC meeting and has the presentation on the agenda, or the MASQUE >> chairs, since this is a MASQUE topic - could send a pointer to this >> presentation, minutes, etc. to 3GPP SA2, before the November IETF and SA2 >> meetings. >> >> I want to push back on this - I don't want to get into a mode where we >> extend liaison statements for the sole purpose of notifying the other side >> that we had a meeting and that there are meeting materials. I would assume >> that if someone is intending on using QUIC (and/or MASQUE) in some form, >> they would follow the work at least to a degree where they know when >> meetings happen. >> > > That's fair, and normally I'd agree, but this agenda item wasn't posted to > the mailing list at all, that I can see, and MASQUE was only added to the > agenda yesterday, according to > https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/pull/166. It's not clear to me who > would have been able to know that this agenda item had been added. > > As above - I can send the pointers to 3GPP SA2 as an individual > participant in both bodies, but thought the QUIC or MASQUE chairs might > want to add context :-) > > Best, > > Spencer > > >> Thanks, >> Lars >> >
