On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 at 22:08, Matt Joras <[email protected]> wrote:

> There's a lot to unpack here. Setting some context, as of today our (Meta)
> Internet egress to end users hovers at around 89% QUIC. The reason that is
> not closer to 100% mostly stems from certain products not completely
> utilizing QUIC yet, though every one of our platforms uses it to some
> degree.
>

Impressive results!


> Instances of UDP blocking are mostly isolated to smaller networks and are
> not widespread.
>

That's good to know. So it's clear blocking is not the cause of it being a
minority.


> For third party clients who use more cautious policies, the numbers are
> not as high. The percentage of HTTP/3 by browser as seen by our servers
> currently is roughly:
> Microsoft Edge: ~83%
> Chrome Desktop: ~75%
> Chrome Mobile: ~70%
> Firefox: ~60%
> Safari/Mobile Safari: ~40%
> Firefox Mobile: 30%
>

> We use the same alt-svc and HTTPS record strategy for all our major
> domains. This indicates that there are likely improvements to be made in
> both advertising QUIC's availability but more importantly browsers using it
> more proactively than they currently are.
>

This appears significant. IIUC, those numbers could potentially reach ~89%
as that's what you achieve using first party apps. Safari routinely
performs HTTPS lookups and yet only reaches 40%. The use of old operating
systems is probably only part of the reason.

This is where many small impediments can start to accrue and stall out
> adoption.
>

Yes of course for many reasons the long tail will be very slow to adopt
HTTP/3. I was mainly thinking about CDNs, whose business offering is to
deliver web content as quickly as possible. It's still surprising to me
that H3 is a small percentage on many CDNs.


On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 at 00:43, Martin Thomson <[email protected]> wrote:

> HTTP/3 25.09% 26.13%
>

Thanks for the data, which is pretty similar to Cloudflare's. If that was
filtered to Meta destinations, perhaps you'd see the 60% figure that Matt
sees.

The question I'd ask is "so?"  Should we care that QUIC isn't racing to the
> moon?


I care about making the internet work better and be more responsive to
users. QUIC is a major improvement in that sense and it's sad to see it
being limited to a subset. I'd like to deliver these benefits to more
people, more of the time. As a community we can take actions that result in
H3 overtaking H2 on the internet.

Chris

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