On Wed, Mar 25, 2026, at 15:04, Kazuho Oku wrote:
>> In that case, if you have a 1:1:1:1 write:frame:QMux record:TLS record 
>> ratio, there is zero difference between the options.
>
> I disagree, unless you are proposing to impose a size limit on the 
> entire encoded STREAM frame, including the frame header bytes, which 
> would be an exotic design compared to having a size limit on the STREAM 
> frame payload.

I don't follow your argument.  I thought we'd agreed that writing a single 
STREAM frame produced identical bytes in the record or no record design, unless 
you are right at the boundaries where the varint encoding for the record is 
larger than the varint encoding for a STREAM frame length.  So how would the 
two designs be different regarding the TLS layer?

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