Don't forget the modes, either. If you're going to do scales then the modes are quite useful too.
There's also bebop scales, though that might get a bit complex. And let's not forget whole tone scales, pentatonic, and the two octatonic scales, assuming that the transform functions can handle them. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Raymond Grote Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:15 AM To: QWS list Subject: Re: Re[2]: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi applications? Hmm, definitely taking a look at that one. Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole Massey" <[email protected]> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 8:04 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi applications? > Transforms to convert the major and minor scales to a Hajaz scale (also > called Egyptian Minor or Hungarian minor) would be nice for an instant > middle-eastern flavor to a melody. I'm trying to remember the exact change > from minor to get this scale. I know you lower the second scale tone, but > I've forgotten the other one. (raise the seventh? That might be it, but > I'm > not sure) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Raymond Grote > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:09 AM > To: QWS list > Subject: Re: Re[2]: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi > applications? > > The problem with melodic is, when going up the melody line has a normal > sixth and seventh found in a major scale, and when going down it is > lowered > to a natural minor scale. I could try making one to see how well it works. > Another thing I was thinking of, how about a transform for inverting > melodies, so if you wanted harmony, you could just run the inversion > transform you needed and have an instant harmony track? I'd have a route > to > first and second inversions for major and minor. Anyone have suggestions > for > > transforms? I really am into them now that we brought it up. > If I send in transforms, how should I send them? Should I attach a file > containing the data, and call it transforms.ini or something like that, > that > > way I'm not overwriting anyone's user transform data? Or should I just > paste > > it in a message and hope the line breaks don't interfere? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leonard de Ruijter" <[email protected]> > To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:04 AM > Subject: Re[2]: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi applications? > > >> Good idea there with the major to minor. I've also thought about >> creating those, since there are more then one major to minor So if >> you'd like to share them with us, that would be great. >> transforms possible, harmonic, melodic and such things. >> -- >> Regards, >> Leonard de Ruijter >> Playing in the dark >> >> >> >> Monday, August 8, 2011, 9:53:32 PM, you wrote: >> >>> I fully agree with you there. Once I loaded in a 15 minute file, and was >>> looking for different things with the find function. It found something >>> at >>> the very end of the file instantly. I've never! had to wait for anything >>> to >>> be processed or found in qWS. Even notepad with text files sometimes >>> makes >>> you wait, but maybe that's because text files can be bigger than midi if >>> they're long enough. But the same can be said for midi too. I get the >>> impression there's no real size limit with QWS, because i've tried to >>> push >>> it several times, I've loaded 200 k midis and it didn't complain. The >>> only >>> time it did, was when I tried to load in a final fantasy midi and it >>> said >>> the midi wasn't a valid midi file or something, so I went into Synth >>> Font >>> and resaved it, and then it opened fine. The sound was unaltered too, in >>> that there were no changed controllers that i could tell, nothing really >>> missing. >>> By the way, I've made a new major to minor transform, it sounds more >>> natural, instead of changing the major sevenths to minor sevenths, it >>> keeps >>> them where they are. So it's more of a harmonic minor scale now but the >>> minor -sevenths in the original untransformed data are still preserved. >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Onj" <[email protected]> >>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:51 AM >>> Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi applications? >> >> >>>> good morning. I cannot begin to tell you just how much of a proponent >>>> I >>>> am for QWS. I'm probably the second longest user of QWS in the world. >>>> I >>>> produced my entire album with it. Recently I went to Birmingham in the >>>> UK, not Alabama, and tought it to some students in Priestley Smith >>>> school >>>> for the blind. >>>> From the feedback I got at the end, it helped them quite a lot, and we >>>> produced some videocasts for the school intranet. If or when I get >>>> permission, I will share those on-list with you all, so you can >>>> hopefully >>>> benefit from that also. >>>> I was only there for one school-day but the students were receptive and >>>> did really seem to enjoy the demonstrations I put fourth. One of them >>>> was >>>> of course, the famous note-transform. I played the very well-known >>>> nursery rhyme old Mcdonald in F major, and used the major to minor to >>>> turn >>>> it into something rather different from the original. Picking >>>> something >>>> that people know quite well for demonstration purposes really hellped >>>> to >>>> get the point accross I feel. >>>> >>>> Although other DAWs have such features, how many of them are as easy to >>>> use or to find as simply visiting the tools menu? How many programs >>>> are >>>> forgoing menus entirely in favour of nasty ribbons or toolbars and >>>> saying >>>> bye bye to keyboard shortcuts? too many imho. >>>> >>>> the fact that I can run a basic set of synths on a Netbook and take QWS >>>> with me literally anywhere with access to a qwerty keyboard and write >>>> down >>>> ideas is a huge bonus to me. What I think is that a rather large >>>> section >>>> of modern computer users have very little pacients and if the product >>>> has >>>> no fancy graphics they dismiss it out of hand after 3 minutes of using >>>> it. >>>> Truely it is their loss, not ours. We know what we have. We utilise >>>> it >>>> to the best of our abilities and for myself, I'm very glad QWS came >>>> into >>>> being. >>>> For a free product, very few things come close in the midi world, of >>>> matching it. Note I said midi, not midi and audio, for we all know QWS >>>> does not support audio. >>>> >>>> Lastly, the size of the program and lack of CPU. Both are practically >>>> non-existant, even with 32-channel midi files. Responsiveness. Fast >>>> forward and rewinde in other daws and see what happens. >>>> >>>> That's really that for now, but just my thoughts on this Monday >>>> morning. >>>> Thank you for reading. >>>> >>>> From: Nicole Massey <[email protected]> >>>> on Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:52 PM >>>> >>>>> I haven't installed it yet, because I'm still waiting on some >>>>> assistance >>>>> to >>>>> get one of my USB keyboards out of the storage space my studio is in >>>>> at >>>>> the >>>>> moment, but I have read the manual end to end. >>>>> >>>>> One thing that struck me was its similarity to older DOS based >>>>> sequencers, >>>>> in that the approach tends to give you a lot of tools to work with >>>>> without a >>>>> lot of focus on bells and whistles. There's a very large list of >>>>> things >>>>> it >>>>> will do to MIDI, but it leaves a lot of other stuff to other programs. >>>>> >>>>> In the computer programmer world, such a program is called a "gerbil." >>>>> The >>>>> mental picture is a small gerbil busily running in its wheel, doing >>>>> what >>>>> it's supposed to. Such programs are nice to find, because they handle >>>>> things >>>>> rather well. >>>>> >>>>> One of the points I like about QWS is that everything is done using a >>>>> standard MIDI file. This takes a step or two out of porting the >>>>> sequence >>>>> to >>>>> a notation program if you need it, or to a DAW should that be your >>>>> intent. >>>>> I plan to use QWS for my MIDI work while my studio is deconstructed >>>>> for >>>>> construction of the building, as I still have work I want to get done >>>>> right >>>>> now, and dragging a seven foot tall rack full of modules and support >>>>> gear >>>>> into the house (with three steps to get inside, too) doesn't seem to >>>>> make >>>>> a >>>>> lot of sense to me. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>>> Of >>>>> Raymond Grote >>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:18 PM >>>>> To: QWS list >>>>> Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi >>>>> applications? >>>>> >>>>> That's a good point. What I was trying to figure out is why QWS is so >>>>> scary >>>>> to a sighted person. It's nothing graphical, it just lays itself out >>>>> in >>>>> front of you and you have to do what you need with it. And it doesn't >>>>> have >>>>> as many functions but that's because it's only for midi, not even >>>>> sheet >>>>> music which I could care less about it. I'm sure there are other >>>>> programs >>>>> for it when I need it that I could use in conjunction with QWS. As >>>>> I've >>>>> said >>>>> >>>>> the only reason I can even think of is that it doesn't have any quick >>>>> presets that you can just click or modify like some DAWs do. >>>>> In any case, even though QWS's usage is simple, mastering it is not. >>>>> I've >>>>> had many people try QWS and play with it and figure out how easy it >>>>> was >>>>> to >>>>> transpose or change to a different instrument, for example. But they >>>>> know >>>>> nothing about midi or theory. So it's even simple enough for them, and >>>>> that's a good thing. If they're satisfied with it, then let them be. I >>>>> really don't see how much simpler the interface could get. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Leonard de Ruijter" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:43 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi >>>>> applications? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey Raymond, >>>>> >>>>> I have to say that qws seemed quite complicated to me when i started >>>>> working with it. Another thing, which is a big credit to Andre, as >>>>> soon as i started listening to some of his tutorials, i found qws >>>>> getting more and more interesting for me, and understood more of >>>>> it. For example, i've played with note transform for several days >>>>> after i listened andre's tutorial concerning this. I use qws for >>>>> every >>>>> sequencing work i have to do now, and it works great. Lots of >>>>> functions qws has i miss in daws, for example the quick note editing >>>>> and midi assignments. So may be it's an idea to point >>>>> the daw-lovers to Andre's tutorials. One remark i also have to make >>>>> is that some of my sighted friends found qws quite scary as well, but >>>>> that's more about how they found it look like, and as it is mainly >>>>> used by blind musicians, i don't care. >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> Here's an interesting question. When I learned QWS, I didn't >>>>>> have anyone to help me out with it, just the setting up the keyboard >>>>>> part. And I had to learn most of the tools and functions myself. >>>>>> While I am a decent musician, I don't consider myself better than >>>>>> everyone. But QWS just came natural to me, a little more than I had >>>>>> expected. There are sighted people I know that know way more than I >>>>>> do, who use other programs which are not at all accessible. They >>>>>> have a whole workstation in front of them, and they can do way more >>>>>> than impport midi data and play it back, they can tweak pretty much >>>>>> every synth and effect peramitor there is. Whether they actually >>>>>> know the ins and outs of it I don't know, but it sure seems like >>>>>> they do. >>>>>> Now the question. I know people who are impressed with the work >>>>>> I do, contrary to my opinion, lol. but, they wanted to know how I >>>>>> did it, but they're sort of geared into something like I said above >>>>>> and I'm not sure exactly how to approach QWs. I initially said, >>>>>> "The manual's really good, you should understand it." I was under >>>>>> the impression that QWS's features were pretty familiar to any midi >>>>>> sequencer that knows what they're doing, and it would be >>>>>> ridiculously simple. But then an hour later they'd uninstall because >>>>>> it was either too complicated for them or too slow. I then realized >>>>>> that QWS and a DAW are pretty different, QWS is like Notepad, where >>>>>> it doesn't offer amazing functions with one clikc. You have to use >>>>>> the thirty or so tools that it provides you, in the way you want >>>>>> them, not go by some factory of presets already made for you and >>>>>> tweak it from there. >>>>>> So am I even partially right? Is QWS really complicated from >>>>>> that standpoint, or could it be lack of patience? We've all seen >>>>>> what Andre can do with it, I myself found it hard to believe that he >>>>>> used QWS at first since I'm nowhere near that level. >>>>>> Maybe some of you here have had similar experiences and can give >>>>>> more >>>>>> insight. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>> >>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>> >>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>> >>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>> >>>> for archived list posts, see >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >> >>> for archived list posts, see >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >> >> for archived list posts, see >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com > > for archived list posts, see > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com > > for archived list posts, see > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
