Hi Raymond. 
Thanks for your reply. 

It'll probably grow on me. 

But what do you do with a big big number like 16256 and 16128. 

16256 / 128 =127
and
16128 / 128 =126

Ok, sorry, i understand that now. 

I'm speaking about the drum kits. 
In my manual 

The voice numbers is from 109-121. 
Then in the colom, there is a number: 127, then a 0, which is supposed to be 
the bank number, then the program number. 

Now, lets just step away from the drum kits. 

I see, a quite well-known number in my namual is 112. 

For instance, my colom headings read as follow:
Voice
no.
Bank select midi
Program
change
Name

001 0 112 1 Grand piano

Lets take the brass section in a QWS instrument list:
; Brass
-1, 61,112,Brass Section
-1, 61,113,Big Band Brass
-1, 62,113,80's Brass
-1, 61,119,Mellow Horns
-1, 62,114,Techno Brass
-1, 62,112,Synth Brass

What i have notices is that QWS placed the program numbers first and then the 
bank. 
In my Yamaha manual, the bank is first, as you saw above. 

For instance, the entry for my Brass Section in the Yamaha manual would be:

078 0 112 62 Brass Section

I've noticed that all the program numbers, when you convert it to QWS, you must 
subtract 1. 
In this example, 62 becomes 61. 
BAnk number 112. 
I'm not sure what the 0 means in the manual's example. 
Maybe the channel number?
Dunnoh. 
But in the drumkits, this 0, becomes 127 and 126. 

Hope you are still with me. 

About the 112, 113 and 114's. 

What is this. MSB, LSB?
Or QWS's number. 
And how do i know what the msb and lsb is?

I understand your example with 388, but 112 is a number below 127 or 128. 

Sorry for the confused email. 

Thanks for the help. 

Dewald. 

Dewald Louwrens van Deventer 

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Ludwig Van Beethoven

Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be 
silent. 
Victor Hugo
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Raymond Grote 
  To: QWS list 
  Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 3:33 AM
  Subject: Re: QWS List Introduction - New member


  Hello Dewald,
  Glad to hear you are finding use in this great program. It is certainly a 
great help in that area. It is also very useful for transcription, with hearing 
an audio recording and transcribing it for midi. It's definitely hard work, 
especially when you are a perfectionist like myself. I have yet to get into 
scoring though, I just play what I hear for each part, and whether it's 
technically correct is something I don't yet know, as I haven't had enough 
musical training to know all the technical rules and restrictions.
  As for your question on bank numbers. Basically the way QWS handles MSB and 
LSB. If I'm understanding this right, QWS combines MSB and LSB as you said. All 
of your MSB numbers are 0, 128, 256, 384, 512, and so on. LSB is in between 
those. So, to convert a set of MSB and LSB numbers to the way QWS interprets 
it, you multiply the MSB by 128 and add the LSB.
  So, MSb 3 and LSB 4 is:
  128 times 3 equals 384, plus 4 is 388.
  Now, to go the other way, from a QWS number to an MSB and LSB,  I'm not so 
sure about. What I would do, is divide that big number QWS gives you by 128. If 
the result comes out even, as in no decimals or remainders, then LSB is 0. If 
you can figure out a remainder, then that remainder is the LSb, but if you are 
only getting decimals, as you will with most calculators, then there's an extra 
step we have to take. If there is a decimal, get rid of anything after the 
decimal and multiply this new number by 128. Take the original QWS number minus 
this new number to get LSB.
  So, to convert bank 388 to MSB and LSB:
  388 divided by 128 equals 3 with a decimal. This 3 is the MSB.
  3 times 128 is 384.
  388 minus 384 equals 4. So 4 is the LSB.
  Hopefully I didn't confuse you too much, and made a little bit of sense!

  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dewald van Deventer 
    To: QWS list 
    Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:33 PM
    Subject: QWS List Introduction - New member


    Hello list. 
    My name is Dewald from South Africa. 

    I have recently stumbled across QWS, and was very impressed. 
    I still am. 

    I like playing around with it, and have created a few songs just for fun. 

    I also use it to learn classical pieces. 

    This is actually a new discovery of mine. 

    For 5 years i have studied piano performance at a university here in South 
Africa, where my lecturor recorded every piece for me in MP3 or Wave format. 

    I also did a thesis on the problems and possibilities of music score access 
for blind pianists. "mouthful" :)

    But i wanted to find a way to learn the notes of a specific score 
independantly. 

    I probably lost a few of you already in my description, but hold on!

    Now, i can download midi format "sMF" 1 from the Internet, where the right 
and left hand of the classical piece are divided into different channels, 
channel 1 and 2, preferably. 

    And i import it into QWS, and i can mute or solo a specific hand part, or 
channel, slow it down, rewind, fast forward, etc. to help me hear every note of 
the score. 

    I could also send the midi file if it is channelled correctly, "right hand 
channel 1, left hand channel 2" to my Yamaha PSR-E323 keyboard, and mute the 
channels on there too, as well as perform the other features i mentioned. 

    Soon i will put up a website with this information and with resources. 

    But i just wanted to share that with you. 

    I just have two questions already for you guys:

    1. Can someone explain to me how the banks "LSB and MSB" work? 
    At the back of my Yamaha instructions manual, i see specifically in the 
drum kits list, the following numbers:
    127 0 1 Standard kit

    But when i had a look at the PSR-E403 instrument .ini file, i saw that 
there is a bigger number 
    Bank 16256 and program 0
    And then later on in the SFX kits it uses bank 16128 with program 0 etc. 

    I know this has something to do with the LSB and MSB numbers or midi 
controller numbers only going up to 128 sounds, and that QWS combines them ...
    Confused smilie?

    I know that 127 times 127 minus 1 equals 16128, but yeh ...

    Question 2:
    I used these bank numbers for the drum kits for my instrument list for my 
PSR-E323 list. 
    But now, after i have take the PSR-E323 instrument list and deleted a few 
sounds that's not on the PSR-E323, and modifying it a bit, i was impressed to 
find that all the program and banks worked fine. 

    I would like to upload it to the website. 
    You know, to add the PSR-E323 to your instrument list on site. 

    I never could imagine that i would actually make such effort as to figuring 
out or even just thinking about doing this, or worrying about banks and 
programmes and ports. :)
    It was quite intimidating at first. 
    But, i am quite interested. 

    Like i'm saying, thanks for this wonderful program. 
    I am very impressed, and enjoying it very much. 

    Of course i'm only using the basics of it at the moment, but, hopefully, 
i'll learn more and more. 

    Oh yeh, let me know off-list, if anyone would be interested to read my 
thesis, or to find out more about my method of learning notes of scores. 

    Thank you,
    Lord bless,
    Dewald. 

    Dewald Louwrens van Deventer 

    Cell: +2782-461-4865

    Fax: +2786-612-5921

    E-mail: <[email protected]>

    Skypename: <dewie007>

    Facebook: <Dewald Louwrens van Deventer>
    ---
    Music should strike fire from the heart of man, and bring tears from the 
eyes of woman.
    Ludwig Van Beethoven

    Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to 
be silent. 
    Victor Hugo

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