R544 is just a Allen Bradley 470K, 10% ½W resistor.
The only Part List I know is in the first R-390/URR manual that you can
download here:
https://www.royalsignals.org.uk/radio-rx-R390/2460.pdf
73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal
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Fortunately, R544 is not under V510 where all the Amphenol Jack harness
wires but seems to be in the compartment just above. Doesn’t look like
typical 2W CC but looks like much older style. Will lift one end tonight
after dinner and see. Where can I find the parts list with component
specifications. I searched the TM 11-5820-357-35 manual.. Are they
submanuals also?
Jerry
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Jerry, because R544 is still open... !
Is your +B checks at +180V ?
With the R544 in place (and good in value) you should measure about +40V
on the cathodes, yes !
Do not ask why those hi-value resistors fail.
I have seen this many times, but nobody can tell why.
73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal
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[email protected] Objet : Re: [R-390] R-390 (non-A) - Low RF Gain or
bad Antenna relay?
Before I replace R544, I wonder what caused it to fail. Checking voltages
per manual, with Limiter at maximum 10, there should be 0 vdc at the plate
(pin 6) or grid (7) or cathode (8) which I confirmed. However, with
Limiter switched off there should only be 40vdc at the plate, grid and
cathode and I find +155vdc. Does this make any sense?
Jerry
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I unplugged P117 from J517. All connections from P117-9 and P119-10 to
Limiter switch are intact. There is no continuity from V507B-8 (cathode)
to J517-9. I checked directly at the tube sockets; V507B cathode and V510
cathode are continuous as per schematic so that rules out issues at the
tube sockets. It looks like it can only be R544... so now to remove the
IF module.
More to follow............
Jerry
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Jerry, looks like R544 is open, or just not there anymore !
73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal
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R-390 (non-A) - Low RF Gain or bad Antenna relay?
Hi Barry,
Could you do me a favor and also check resistance on V507B (Neg Peak
Limiter) pin 8 cathode -- It should read 500k (Limiter knob at full CW)
and 450k with Limiter switch OFF - I read an open circuit or resistance >
10Meg. The cathode of V507B is tied to the cathode of V510 (pin 3) which
also reads open on my DMM.
Thanks in advance
Jerry
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Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2024 10:52 PM
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Cc: [email protected]
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I just checked resistance from V506 Pin 7 to ground in my R-390/URR and it
checks a few ohms over 820 ohms.
Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 8:38 PM Barry Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
That resistance measurement seems quite odd. R536 is supposed to be
820 ohms. Unless C523 is bad, I don't see how there should be
anything much less than 820 ohms at pin 7 of V506 yet the resistance
diagram shows 700 ohms. 99 ohms seems very wrong.
Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 8:12 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Update....
>
> I checked voltages and resistances per TM 11-5820-357-35 (09 March
> 1962) for the IF amps V501 - V506. I don’t know if my R-390 had any
> mods, its SN 1256, but all the results were very close to the listed
> values except for V506, 6th IF amp. The cathode should read 700 ohms
> to ground and 8.2vdc and I find 99 ohms and 2.3vdc. The schematic
> shows the cathode bias resistor of 800 ohms and a 15ohm pot for carrier
> meter adjustment. There is a decoupling cap 0.1uF off the cathode that
> if leaky could bring the resistance down to my reading. But would
> this be enough to drop my gain so dramatically?
>
> Jerry
>
>
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