I had a Progressitron PTO in a 1962 Amelco R-390A/URR  that was doing something 
similar. Upon opening the PTO, I discovered one of those tiny npo caps had a 
bad solder joint and would intermittently make contact. I cleaned up the solder 
joint and made it good. It was one of the better PTO's that I had in the rest 
of the R-390a/URR's and one R-390/URR. This was before I retired and makes that 
event over 17 years ago.

Diddlesticks are great for tapping on microphonic tubes and places where you 
can obviously detect the result of tapping, etc.

Les Locklear
Gulfport, Mississippi
Dx'ing since '57


----- Original Message -----
From: Jacques Fortin <jacque...@videotron.ca>
To: 'Bob Camp' <kb...@n1k.org>, 'Kevin Schuchmann' <kschuchm...@protonmail.com>
Cc: 'R390A' <r-390@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 12/27/2024 4:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [R-390] R-390 non A 12khz jump
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Not that easy to tap on something inside when the PTO is disassembled.
Unless it can be powered and the output monitored on a frequency counter at the same time...
Good luck with that, anyways.

73, Jacques, VE2JFE in Montreal

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À : Kevin Schuchmann <kschuchm...@protonmail.com>
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Objet : Re: [R-390] R-390 non A 12khz jump

Hi

Even a “tap with a pencil” sort of test might well identify the part that’s the problem. I used to have a plexiglass rod in my tool kit for that sort of stuff. Way safer than “tap with your finger” on tube gear. :)

Bob

On Dec 27, 2024, at 3:14 PM, Kevin Schuchmann via R-390 <r-
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Thanks to Tisha and Jacques,

It is a model 1 PTO and I have started the disassembly and will check those capacitors closely.

Kevin



On Friday, December 27th, 2024 at 10:32 AM, Tisha Hayes <tisha.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:



I would suspect a capacitor in the PTO circuitry that is on the verge of failing.

A can of freeze spray may help you isolate the specific component; Maybe even tapping on caps/resistors with the tip of an insulated tool might help identify if there is a cracked component that works differently.

The ballast tube would not be so 'precise' in causing a 12 KHz offset. It is also a very simple thermonic device with an iron filament in a hydrogen atmosphere that is just a current regulator.

Ms. Tisha Hayes, AA4HA

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