I see no need Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2026, at 12:05 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send R-390 mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of R-390 digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO > (Les Locklear) > 2. Re: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO > (Tom Bruns) > 3. Re: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO > (James A. (Andy) Moorer) > 4. Re: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO (n4buq) > 5. SWITCH. (Greg Mengell) > 6. Re: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO > (JOS K1JOS) > 7. Re: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO > (Bob kb8tq) > 8. Re: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO > (JOS K1JOS) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 11:32:40 -0500 > From: "Les Locklear" <[email protected]> > To: "Dave Merrill" <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to > Groups.IO > Message-ID: > > <ia3pr05mb99831913a3d674a02d0cae246ab7...@ia3pr05mb998319.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Well said, Dave. > > As a long time member, It doesn't matter to me. > > I no longer own any of the R-390 series or any vacuum receivers save for a > 1940 RCA Console. > > All of my remaining receivers or transceivers are solid state, an Icom 756 > Pro III and Racal 6790 with all the bells and whistles. > > I'm 82, most of the old-time regulars have seemed to have disappeared or have > passed away. I keep subscribed to the list for the occasional > interesting post. > > There is very little to listen to shortwave wise even though I can hear BBC > via long path most mornings. Ham nets and if one is interested military > frequencies. > > I've been retired for over 18 years and seldom post anymore, just lurking > like many others. > > Les Locklear > Dx'ing Since '57 > Located in Gulfport, Mississippi > On the Gulf of Mexico. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dave Merrill via R-390 <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Dave Merrill <[email protected]> > To: > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: 6/25/2026 10:26:29 AM > Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO > ________________________________________________________________________________ > >> I vote NO change for the following reasons: >> >> - Traffic on the group has been very light for the past few years. Most of >> what needed to be discussed has been said, just not everyone has said it >> yet. >> >> - Let's face it: the group largely consists older persons who won't be >> around much longer. If Interest was increasing, a change to a modern list >> service would be more justified. >> >> - Someone has to collect and pay the $250 groups.io fee each year, a >> thankless task. If each of the 500+ current subscribers gave $5 today, that >> would cover the groups.io fee for 10 years. That's not gonna happen. I >> doubt that 10% would pony up. Priorities change when people have to >> actually pay, even a nominal amount. >> >> - Conversions always result in confusion for some. I anticipate plenty of >> unnecessary traffic about dealing the change. >> >> - I subscribe to multiple qth.net groups and contribute $$ each year to >> support them. I don't have a problem with how the reflector operates. >> >> Yes, I'm a grumpy old guy but I ask you to consider my points and argue >> them if you disagree. >> >> --... ...-- Dave N9ZC >> >>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 9:54 AM Andy G8JAC via R-390 <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I am one of the long-term Lurkers on the list - one from across the Pond. >>> I joined perhaps 20 years ago when I bought my first (and so far only) >>> R-390A and needed to learn about the receiver and the technology of its era. >>> In the face of the expertise of the list members I could contribute >>> little, but I learned a lot. And my Motorola R-390A works very well as a >>> result. >>> >>> Here in UK I am a member of several groups that use Groups.IO and foresee >>> absolutely no problems with this fraternity moving there. The platform >>> works, is configurable to your tastes and has been reliable. >>> >>> My vote therefore is yes, do it. >>> >>> Andy G8JAC >>> Surrey, England. (Where it's currently way hotter than Miami) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Evidently, there are a lot of lurkers in the membership who have no >>> opinion on a move to groups.io. Perhaps those that have asked questions >>> or answered posts in the last year or so will determine if there is to be a >>> move or not? A quick look at the archive, sorted by author, will give you >>> a good idea of who is active on this list. >>> >>> I use DuckDuckGo for my posts and find that all of the formatting gets >>> stripped from my posts so the post is just one long run-on sentence or >>> paragraph. This makes things harder to read and is a bit frustrating when >>> I forget that mailman does not like DuckDuckGo. So I am in favor of the >>> upgrade. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jim >>> >>> Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with >>> confidence. Murphy >>> >>> On Saturday, June 20, 2026 at 09:00:43 AM CDT, JOS K1JOS via R-390 < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> So far there have only been 35 respondents with the overwhelming majority >>> favorable for the move. A small number (<4) would prefer to keep things as >>> they are. I'm not sure what threshold we should target for making this >>> decision but like most elections in our society, those who fail to vote >>> lose their voice in such decisions. The list currently has 507 members, or >>> at least valid email addresses, with only 32 members marked for no mail or >>> digest delivery. It is difficult to estimate truly 'active' members, but >>> unused emails do expire. Gmail for example has a 2y inactivity (sender >>> side) limit at which point any emails to that address will be rejected >>> (bounced back to sender). Yahoo email has a 12-month inactivity policy and >>> all other email service providers have something similar. I routinely >>> receive notifications regarding bounced emails from our >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> server and after 10 >>> consecutive failed bounces I remove that person from the distribution list >>> so the (507 - 32) cannot be too stale an estimate. >>> >>> >>> >>> My proposal is to wait 2 weeks as some may be on vacation/holiday/illness >>> and revisit the final count at that point. Interestingly, there is no fee >>> for small groups < 100 at Groups.IO for basic messaging/archiving. In any >>> case, I would not close the mailman.qth.net list but rather continue >>> sending out a single monthly broadcast to the list pointing people to find >>> us on the new groups.io link. >>> >>> >>> >>> Suggestions/comments are welcome !! >>> >>> >>> >>> Jerry NY2KW (ex-K1JOS, ex-WB2ORJ) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: JOS K1JOS <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2026 7:34 PM >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>> Subject: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO >>> >>> >>> >>> There has been a proposal to move our mailing list to Groups.io due to >>> inconsistent mail/digest deliveries. Groups.io has a very user friendly >>> interface, will send you email updates or digests plus it has a robust >>> searchable archive of messages and files. The hosting fee is ~ $250/year. >>> If we can establish a minimum interest among the current 500+ >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> members we can move >>> forward. >>> >>> >>> >>> All comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc are welcome. >>> >>> >>> >>> Those who have already responded under the previous 'TEST' subject header >>> need not reply again. >>> >>> >>> >>> Link to Groups.io : https://groups.io/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks to all ! >>> >>> >>> >>> Jerry NY2KW (K1JOS) R-390 mail list administrator >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> R-390 mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> R-390 mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> R-390 mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> R-390 mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 15:40:11 -0500 > From: Tom Bruns <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to > Groups.IO > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > I agree with Dave. > > Tom KC5L > >> On 6/25/26 10:26 AM, Dave Merrill via R-390 wrote: >> I vote NO change for the following reasons: >> >> - Traffic on the group has been very light for the past few years. Most of >> what needed to be discussed has been said, just not everyone has said it >> yet. >> >> - Let's face it: the group largely consists older persons who won't be >> around much longer. If Interest was increasing, a change to a modern list >> service would be more justified. >> >> - Someone has to collect and pay the $250 groups.io fee each year, a >> thankless task. If each of the 500+ current subscribers gave $5 today, that >> would cover the groups.io fee for 10 years. That's not gonna happen. I >> doubt that 10% would pony up. Priorities change when people have to >> actually pay, even a nominal amount. >> >> - Conversions always result in confusion for some. I anticipate plenty of >> unnecessary traffic about dealing the change. >> >> - I subscribe to multiple qth.net groups and contribute $$ each year to >> support them. I don't have a problem with how the reflector operates. >> >> Yes, I'm a grumpy old guy but I ask you to consider my points and argue >> them if you disagree. >> >> --... ...-- Dave N9ZC >> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 9:54?AM Andy G8JAC via R-390 <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I am one of the long-term Lurkers on the list - one from across the Pond. >>> I joined perhaps 20 years ago when I bought my first (and so far only) >>> R-390A and needed to learn about the receiver and the technology of its era. >>> In the face of the expertise of the list members I could contribute >>> little, but I learned a lot. And my Motorola R-390A works very well as a >>> result. >>> >>> Here in UK I am a member of several groups that use Groups.IO and foresee >>> absolutely no problems with this fraternity moving there. The platform >>> works, is configurable to your tastes and has been reliable. >>> >>> My vote therefore is yes, do it. >>> >>> Andy G8JAC >>> Surrey, England. (Where it's currently way hotter than Miami) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Evidently, there are a lot of lurkers in the membership who have no >>> opinion on a move to groups.io. Perhaps those that have asked questions >>> or answered posts in the last year or so will determine if there is to be a >>> move or not? A quick look at the archive, sorted by author, will give you >>> a good idea of who is active on this list. >>> >>> I use DuckDuckGo for my posts and find that all of the formatting gets >>> stripped from my posts so the post is just one long run-on sentence or >>> paragraph. This makes things harder to read and is a bit frustrating when >>> I forget that mailman does not like DuckDuckGo. So I am in favor of the >>> upgrade. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jim >>> >>> Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with >>> confidence. Murphy >>> >>> On Saturday, June 20, 2026 at 09:00:43 AM CDT, JOS K1JOS via R-390 < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> So far there have only been 35 respondents with the overwhelming majority >>> favorable for the move. A small number (<4) would prefer to keep things as >>> they are. I'm not sure what threshold we should target for making this >>> decision but like most elections in our society, those who fail to vote >>> lose their voice in such decisions. The list currently has 507 members, or >>> at least valid email addresses, with only 32 members marked for no mail or >>> digest delivery. It is difficult to estimate truly 'active' members, but >>> unused emails do expire. Gmail for example has a 2y inactivity (sender >>> side) limit at which point any emails to that address will be rejected >>> (bounced back to sender). Yahoo email has a 12-month inactivity policy and >>> all other email service providers have something similar. I routinely >>> receive notifications regarding bounced emails from our >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> server and after 10 >>> consecutive failed bounces I remove that person from the distribution list >>> so the (507 - 32) cannot be too stale an estimate. >>> >>> >>> >>> My proposal is to wait 2 weeks as some may be on vacation/holiday/illness >>> and revisit the final count at that point. Interestingly, there is no fee >>> for small groups < 100 at Groups.IO for basic messaging/archiving. In any >>> case, I would not close the mailman.qth.net list but rather continue >>> sending out a single monthly broadcast to the list pointing people to find >>> us on the new groups.io link. >>> >>> >>> >>> Suggestions/comments are welcome !! >>> >>> >>> >>> Jerry NY2KW (ex-K1JOS, ex-WB2ORJ) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: JOS K1JOS <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2026 7:34 PM >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>> Subject: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO >>> >>> >>> >>> There has been a proposal to move our mailing list to Groups.io due to >>> inconsistent mail/digest deliveries. Groups.io has a very user friendly >>> interface, will send you email updates or digests plus it has a robust >>> searchable archive of messages and files. The hosting fee is ~ $250/year. >>> If we can establish a minimum interest among the current 500+ >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> members we can move >>> forward. >>> >>> >>> >>> All comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc are welcome. >>> >>> >>> >>> Those who have already responded under the previous 'TEST' subject header >>> need not reply again. >>> >>> >>> >>> Link to Groups.io : https://groups.io/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks to all ! >>> >>> >>> >>> Jerry NY2KW (K1JOS) R-390 mail list administrator >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> R-390 mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> R-390 mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> R-390 mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> R-390 mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 17:21:00 -0400 > From: "James A. (Andy) Moorer" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to > Groups.IO > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Yeah - it's time. All my other email reflector groups moved there. It > seems to be the going thing. > I will chip in to the cost. > Anybody know how Groups.io deals with attachments, like photos? Or PDF > documents? > -A > > -- > James A. (Andy) Moorer > www.jamminpower.org > > > >> On 6/18/2026 19:34, JOS K1JOS via R-390 wrote: >> There has been a proposal to move our mailing list to Groups.io due to >> inconsistent mail/digest deliveries. Groups.io has a very user friendly >> interface, will send you email updates or digests plus it has a robust >> searchable archive of messages and files. The hosting fee is ~ $250/year. >> If we can establish a minimum interest among the current 500+ >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> members we can move >> forward. >> >> >> >> All comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc are welcome. >> >> >> >> Those who have already responded under the previous 'TEST' subject header >> need not reply again. >> >> >> >> Link to Groups.io : https://groups.io/ >> >> >> >> Thanks to all ! >> >> >> >> Jerry NY2KW (K1JOS) R-390 mail list administrator >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> R-390 mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 16:41:02 -0500 > From: n4buq <[email protected]> > To: "James A. (Andy) Moorer" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to > Groups.IO > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Whether or not to allow attachments is configurable by the admins. > > Thanks, > Barry > >> On Jun 25, 2026, at 4:21 PM, James A. (Andy) Moorer via R-390 >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ?Yeah - it's time. All my other email reflector groups moved there. It seems >> to be the going thing. >> I will chip in to the cost. >> Anybody know how Groups.io deals with attachments, like photos? Or PDF >> documents? >> -A >> >> -- >> James A. (Andy) Moorer >> www.jamminpower.org >> >> >> >>>> On 6/18/2026 19:34, JOS K1JOS via R-390 wrote: >>> There has been a proposal to move our mailing list to Groups.io due to >>> inconsistent mail/digest deliveries. Groups.io has a very user friendly >>> interface, will send you email updates or digests plus it has a robust >>> searchable archive of messages and files. The hosting fee is ~ $250/year. >>> If we can establish a minimum interest among the current 500+ >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> members we can move >>> forward. >>> >>> >>> All comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc are welcome. >>> >>> >>> Those who have already responded under the previous 'TEST' subject header >>> need not reply again. >>> >>> >>> Link to Groups.io : https://groups.io/ >>> >>> >>> Thanks to all ! >>> >>> >>> Jerry NY2KW (K1JOS) R-390 mail list administrator >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> R-390 mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> R-390 mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 15:31:13 -0700 (PDT) > From: Greg Mengell <[email protected]> > To: R390A <[email protected]> > Subject: [R-390] SWITCH. > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > If change is truly needed just go ahead with it. Please we are informed what > we need to do. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:42:26 -0400 > From: "JOS K1JOS" <[email protected]> > To: "'James A. \(Andy\) Moorer'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to > Groups.IO > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > For membership < 100, there is a limited Free plan with up to 1 Gb storage. > Chats are saved by topic for digest, downloading, searching, etc, etc. A > major limitation is no file access area (which we do not have now anyway. > > https://groups.io/static/pricing > > Jerry NY2KW > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of James A. (Andy) Moorer via R-390 > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2026 5:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO > > Yeah - it's time. All my other email reflector groups moved there. It seems > to be the going thing. > I will chip in to the cost. > Anybody know how Groups.io deals with attachments, like photos? Or PDF > documents? > -A > > -- > James A. (Andy) Moorer > www.jamminpower.org > > > >> On 6/18/2026 19:34, JOS K1JOS via R-390 wrote: >> There has been a proposal to move our mailing list to Groups.io due to >> inconsistent mail/digest deliveries. Groups.io has a very user friendly >> interface, will send you email updates or digests plus it has a robust >> searchable archive of messages and files. The hosting fee is ~ $250/year. >> If we can establish a minimum interest among the current 500+ >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> members we can move >> forward. >> >> >> >> All comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc are welcome. >> >> >> >> Those who have already responded under the previous 'TEST' subject header >> need not reply again. >> >> >> >> Link to Groups.io : https://groups.io/ >> >> >> >> Thanks to all ! >> >> >> >> Jerry NY2KW (K1JOS) R-390 mail list administrator >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> R-390 mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > R-390 mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 08:32:14 -0400 > From: Bob kb8tq <[email protected]> > To: JOS K1JOS <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to > Groups.IO > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi > > The ?more features? part of the move is indeed an interesting part of the > whole decision. > > You get a lot of things that we don?t have now. Oddly enough they seem to > want you to > pay for some of them :). Based on other groups, this can turn into a bit of a > funding vs > features spiral. > > The hidden gotcha is the admin work needed behind the scenes to keep all > those features > tuned up and working. There are skills to learn and more time to put in. > > Bob > >> On Jun 25, 2026, at 6:42?PM, JOS K1JOS via R-390 <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> For membership < 100, there is a limited Free plan with up to 1 Gb storage. >> Chats are saved by topic for digest, downloading, searching, etc, etc. A >> major limitation is no file access area (which we do not have now anyway. >> >> https://groups.io/static/pricing >> >> Jerry NY2KW >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On >> Behalf Of James A. (Andy) Moorer via R-390 >> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2026 5:21 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO >> >> Yeah - it's time. All my other email reflector groups moved there. It seems >> to be the going thing. >> I will chip in to the cost. >> Anybody know how Groups.io deals with attachments, like photos? Or PDF >> documents? >> -A >> >> -- >> James A. (Andy) Moorer >> www.jamminpower.org >> >> >> >>> On 6/18/2026 19:34, JOS K1JOS via R-390 wrote: >>> There has been a proposal to move our mailing list to Groups.io due to >>> inconsistent mail/digest deliveries. Groups.io has a very user friendly >>> interface, will send you email updates or digests plus it has a robust >>> searchable archive of messages and files. The hosting fee is ~ $250/year. >>> If we can establish a minimum interest among the current 500+ >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> members we can move >>> forward. >>> >>> >>> >>> All comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc are welcome. >>> >>> >>> >>> Those who have already responded under the previous 'TEST' subject header >>> need not reply again. >>> >>> >>> >>> Link to Groups.io : https://groups.io/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks to all ! >>> >>> >>> >>> Jerry NY2KW (K1JOS) R-390 mail list administrator >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> R-390 mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> R-390 mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> R-390 mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 10:17:55 -0400 > From: "JOS K1JOS" <[email protected]> > To: "'Bob kb8tq'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to > Groups.IO > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Bob, > > As the admin for the r-390 mailman.qth.net group for many years now, I > personally think the current system is much more obtuse and poorly > manageable. I get dozens of 'bounces' daily that I much read through and the > majority are due to conditions beyond my control, most commonly files > size/image size limits. The current system often does not notify the sender > that they exceeded limits and instead it gets bounced to me. Groups.io > system is much more transparent and automated. For an unmoderated group such > as ours, the admin on Groups.io does very little daily housekeeping usually. > I am fine staying with the current mailman.qth.net if people would stop > asking me what happened to their posts ? > > Seriously, the amount of time for me is really negligible during the course > of my day, so I will defer to the majority opinion BUT I have received less > than a 10% list member response thus far. > > Jerry NY2KW > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf > Of Bob kb8tq via R-390 > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2026 8:32 AM > To: JOS K1JOS <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO > > Hi > > The ?more features? part of the move is indeed an interesting part of the > whole decision. > > You get a lot of things that we don?t have now. Oddly enough they seem to > want you to pay for some of them :). Based on other groups, this can turn > into a bit of a funding vs features spiral. > > The hidden gotcha is the admin work needed behind the scenes to keep all > those features tuned up and working. There are skills to learn and more time > to put in. > > Bob > >> On Jun 25, 2026, at 6:42?PM, JOS K1JOS via R-390 <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> For membership < 100, there is a limited Free plan with up to 1 Gb storage. >> Chats are saved by topic for digest, downloading, searching, etc, etc. >> A major limitation is no file access area (which we do not have now anyway. >> >> https://groups.io/static/pricing >> >> Jerry NY2KW >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On >> Behalf Of James A. (Andy) Moorer via R-390 >> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2026 5:21 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to >> Groups.IO >> >> Yeah - it's time. All my other email reflector groups moved there. It >> seems to be the going thing. >> I will chip in to the cost. >> Anybody know how Groups.io deals with attachments, like photos? Or PDF >> documents? >> -A >> >> -- >> James A. (Andy) Moorer >> www.jamminpower.org >> >> >> >>> On 6/18/2026 19:34, JOS K1JOS via R-390 wrote: >>> There has been a proposal to move our mailing list to Groups.io due >>> to inconsistent mail/digest deliveries. Groups.io has a very user >>> friendly interface, will send you email updates or digests plus it >>> has a robust searchable archive of messages and files. The hosting fee is >>> ~ $250/year. >>> If we can establish a minimum interest among the current 500+ >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> members we can >>> move forward. >>> >>> >>> >>> All comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc are welcome. >>> >>> >>> >>> Those who have already responded under the previous 'TEST' subject >>> header need not reply again. >>> >>> >>> >>> Link to Groups.io : https://groups.io/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks to all ! >>> >>> >>> >>> Jerry NY2KW (K1JOS) R-390 mail list administrator >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> R-390 mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >>> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> R-390 mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> R-390 mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > R-390 mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > R-390 mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390 > > > End of R-390 Digest, Vol 263, Issue 20 > **************************************
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