1. Whatever we do with the "RSiteSearch" function, it should
still be available every time R starts. If we put it in its own
package, it should still be autoloaded with "base", "utils", "stats", etc.
2. Sundar indicated to me that, "if Jonathan would like to remove
the search capability, it would be rather simple to move RSiteSearch to
nabble" for the listserve archives. The "RSiteSearch" function could be
modified to combine that with a separate search of only the help pages
on Jonathan's server.
3. However, I can't volunteer to do much more on this at least
until late June and probably not before late August. If you wanted to
move the "RSiteSearch" function to the "RSiteSearch" package on R-Forge,
Romain, Sundar and I would be happy to have other developers and let
them implement the group consensus.
Best Wishes,
Spencer
Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
But help really needs to be delivered with R, not an addon.
It should not be necessary to know how to install packages
just to get this level of help. I think it needs to be where it
is now.
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Liaw, Andy <andy_l...@merck.com> wrote:
I agree! Recall, though, I had added the RSiteSearch() functionality
to the Rgui under Windows (Help / search.r-project.org...), so if
RSiteSearch() is taken out, this need to go, too.
Best,
Andy
From: Jonathan Baron
There is something to be said for taking all of these functions,
including the original RSiteSearch, out of utils and putting them in
the new RSiteSearch package. These are the sorts of things that will
get revised frequently, and this way (I think) we won't have to bother
whoever takes care of utils, which is part of the regular R
distribution.
I'm adding Spencer Graves to the cc list. Maybe he is interested in
doing this.
Jon
On 05/07/09 20:54, Romain Francois wrote:
We could have a few functions similar to RSiteSearch or
gmaneSearch I
just posted and then cook a summary html page with R ...
Here is a function that grabs relevant groups from gmane:
gmaneGroups <- function( prefix = "gmane.comp.lang.r." ){
url <- URLencode( sprintf(
"http://dir.gmane.org/index.php?prefix=%s";, prefix) )
txt <- grep( '^<tr.*<td align=right.*<a', readLines(
url ), value =
TRUE )
rx <- '^.*?<a href="(.*?)">(.*?)</a>.*<td>(.*?)</td>.*$'
out <- data.frame(
url = gsub( rx, "\\1", txt ),
group = gsub( rx, "\\2", txt ),
description = gsub( rx, "\\3", txt ),
stringsAsFactors = FALSE
)
out$group <- sub( "...", ".*", out$group, fixed = TRUE )
out
}
I'll clean this up and write a man page if there is
interest in adding
this to R, but this might be more appropriate in a package,
for example:
http://r-forge.r-project.org/projects/rsitesearch/
Romain
Liaw, Andy wrote:
From: Jonathan Baron
On 05/07/09 13:48, Liaw, Andy wrote:
From: Duncan Murdoch
I'll incorporate the changes if you like
Yes. Please do. I understand that it won't take effect
for a while.
When it does, I'll change my site.
What do you think
of the idea
of adding a gmane (or other archive) search to your results
page? Then
if someone doesn't like what the man pages show, you can
send them
somewhere else, rather than leaving them to find out the
other resources
themselves.
gmane has sample code for this on their search page
search.gmane.org, so
it looks reasonably easy. I'd suggest following their
last example,
with a drop-down box to select mailing lists, with
comp.lang.r.* as an
option for "all lists".
Duncan Murdoch
Good idea. I will do this. But there are also two
other good search
engines. Maybe I'll add all three search alternatives.
But then,
according to Sheena Iyengar, people won't choose any! Hmm.
Actually, I was thinking about a possible RHelpSearch() in
addition, if
Jon is no longer going to include the R-help archive in the
search. I
used the current RSiteSearch() a lot more for searching
R-help archive
than functions in packages. Ideas? comments?
This is OK with me, but I don't want to do it. I guess it would
search gmane. MarkMail is also pretty good, as is
http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/ All these are much better than
Namazu for searching the R-help list.
Sorry I didn't make it clear: I meant something like the
gmaneSearcg()
that Romain posted, not hitting your site.
Best,
Andy
Jon
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