The software and manuals are not yet in readily accessible form on CRAN based on the date of the feature and I would prefer not to have to build it myself when any day now it will be there automatically anyways.
Also, I was hoping to avoid a frustrating session of trial and error when surely someone in the core team already knows the likely answer. Building a package takes time and repeatedly trying it with different flags is time consuming. We are only discussing one line of code: R CMD ...something... On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Duncan Murdoch <murd...@stats.uwo.ca> wrote: > On 17/09/2009 7:47 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >> >> I meant to write: >> >> Rcmd INSTALL --build myPackage/ >> >> vs. >> >> Rcmd INSTALL myPackage/ >> >> You, yourself, have mentioned the problem of linking help >> pages on r-devel within the last few months: > > More recently than that. This is the problem I was referring to in the > messages you quote below. > >> http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/e6/devel/09/05/1721.html >> >> and now that this is all changing it would be helpful to have comments >> on what now works best on Windows with the new change. > > Why don't you try the new system, and report on what goes wrong? There is > still time to fix it, so writing advice on what doesn't work seems a little > premature. > > Duncan Murdoch > >> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Duncan Murdoch <murd...@stats.uwo.ca> >> wrote: >>> >>> Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >>>> >>>> Does that mean that >>>> >>>> Rcmd INSTALL --binary myPackage/ >>>> >>>> is still ok or should one use: >>>> >>> No, that has never worked. Please follow Simon's advice, and read the >>> manual. >>> >>> Duncan Murdoch >>>> >>>> Rcmd INSTALL myPackage/ >>>> >>>> without --binary and is this advice the same with and without Rtools? >>>> >>>> Also, as there is potential confusion here could the combinations of >>>> flags >>>> that are not recommended result in a warning? In the latter case at >>>> least >>>> one knows right off that its not the thing to do and can immediately >>>> abort >>>> and try something else if they don't want to suffer the consequences of >>>> bad help linking. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Duncan Murdoch <murd...@stats.uwo.ca> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 17/09/2009 5:55 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 17/09/2009 4:40 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe on other platforms but on Windows >>>>>>> help does not get linked properly with all >>>>>>> variations. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I think you are thinking of building binaries, not installing >>>>>> packages. >>>>>> Generally the only variation we advise against is >>>>>> >>>>>> R CMD build --binary >>>>>> >>>>>> Everything else should work fine, as far as I know. >>>>>> >>>>> And I forgot to add: the way HTML help is handled in the upcoming >>>>> 2.10.0 >>>>> is >>>>> different, so I suspect R CMD build --binary will work. I haven't >>>>> tested >>>>> it >>>>> though... >>>>> >>>>> Duncan Murdoch >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Duncan Murdoch >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Simon Urbanek >>>>>>> <simon.urba...@r-project.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 16:09 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Note that that is not currently the recommended way. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now that would be a surprise to me - to quote R-admin: 6.3.1: "R CMD >>>>>>>> INSTALL >>>>>>>> works in Windows to install source packages if you have the >>>>>>>> source-code >>>>>>>> package files". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also, what comes after INSTALL? The source .tar.gz name? >>>>>>>>> The pathname to the source directory? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> R CMD INSTALL --help >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Usage: R CMD INSTALL [options] pkgs >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Install the add-on packages specified by pkgs. The elements of pkgs >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> be relative or absolute paths to directories with the package >>>>>>>> (bundle) >>>>>>>> sources, or to gzipped package 'tar' archives. The library tree >>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Simon Urbanek >>>>>>>>> <simon.urba...@r-project.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:43 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. Perhaps someone in the core group can >>>>>>>>>>> still provide explicit information on how to install such >>>>>>>>>>> a package. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> R CMD INSTALL >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (see R --help and it has been *the* way to install packages for >>>>>>>>>> quite >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> while so I'm not sure how more explicit we have to make it...) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel >>>>>>>>>>> <e...@debian.org> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 September 2009 at 11:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> | Regarding this from this week: >>>>>>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>>>>>> | 2.10.0 PACKAGE INSTALLATION (Windows) >>>>>>>>>>>> | It is possible to install source packages without Rtools >>>>>>>>>>>> provided >>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>> | have no compiled code and no configure.win or cleanup.win >>>>>>>>>>>> script. >>>>>>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>>>>>> | - what are the instructions to perform such a source install? >>>>>>>>>>>> | - I assume one still needs MiKTeX -- is that right? >>>>>>>>>>>> | - is the source install done from a tar.gz (in which case one >>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>> | need tar to create it) or directly from the source directory >>>>>>>>>>>> tree? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You may want to stick this >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-devel >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> into your RSS reader so that you get daily summaries of changes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't follow this too religiously (as I typically only built >>>>>>>>>>>> r-devel >>>>>>>>>>>> once we have >>>>>>>>>>>> alpha/beta/rc candidates) but even I am aware that >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a) dynamic .Rd conversion at runtime, so Miktex may no longer >>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> needed >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> b) untgz.exe on Windows to read (compressed) tarballs >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dirk >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Three out of two people have difficulties with fractions. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >>>>>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > > ______________________________________________ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel