On May 26, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Antonio, Fabio Di Narzo wrote:

> 2010/5/26 Hadley Wickham <had...@rice.edu>:
>>>> Yes, that's a very good point (although in my experience it takes a
>>>> very long time to do the initial download of the SVN repository). I'm
>>>> not an expert on these systems, but I imagine the main downside (other
>>>> than speed) of having SVN upstream is that you have to keep the
>>>> history linear,
>>> 
>>> That (non-linear history) is IMHO the biggest drawback of DVCS because that 
>>> means there is no way to link a particular build to the source status and 
>>> you cannot use globally valid build numbers.
>> 
>> Git (and I'm sure the others) provides a globally unique id for each
>> revision.  Isn't that sufficient?
>> 
>>> But feature branches are as easily (IMHO even more easily since you can 
>>> closely monitor what others are contributing) worked on with SVN (routinely 
>>> used with R) so I'm not sure what DVCS would buy you.
>> 
>> Feature branches are _much_ easier with git - to the point where some
>> people suggest using a separate feature branch for every feature you
>> develop.
>> 
>>> AFAICS the only benefit of DVCS is that if you are on a remote island 
>>> without any internet connection you can accumulate multiple commits before 
>>> merging them back. I can't say that I desperately need that functionality 
>>> ;).
>> 
>> You have never worked on an airplane or other location without
>> internet access?  You must have lived a very privileged life ;)
> 
> Some people just have decent web access only at work, and if you work
> on your R project like at home or on the train, you're already having
> some difficulties. But please, not the airplane argument! (just
> joking...).
> 
> Moreover, 'local' commits are way faster than network-based commits. I
> can testify: 1microsecond vs 1second delay (or more, depending on how
> crappy is your net access) *is* a big difference. On your local
> machine, you end up committing much more often, with smaller and
> self-contained commits, generally producing a cleaner history.
> 

I disagree - I don't find commit time having any impact on what I commit. It's 
always a logical chunk (which is why SVN was such a great step forward from 
CVS). My RForge does check on commit so I don't even bother waiting for the 
commit to finish (waiting is just useful if I want the check result - the 
actual commit is pretty much instantaneous). However, with SVN you'll know 
immediately if someone else was working on the same issue in the meantime - 
with DVCS you won't (this happens in R more often that you would think). [Note: 
again, this is rather about personal preferences I suspect]

Cheers,
Simon

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