On 03/12/2010 10:57 AM, Prof. John C Nash wrote:
No, this is not about Rcpp, but a comment in that overly long discussion raised 
a question
that has been in my mind for a while.

This is that one may have work that is used in R in the base functionality and 
there are
improvements that should be incorporated.

For me, this concerns the BFGS, Nelder-Mead and CG options of optim(), which 
are based on
the 1990 edition (Pascal codes) of my 1979 book "Compact numerical methods...", 
which were
themselves derived from other people's work. By the time Brian Ripley took that 
work (with
permission, even though not strictly required. Thanks!) there were already some
improvements to these same algorithms (mainly bounds and masks) in the BASIC 
codes of the
1987 book by Mary Walker-Smith and I. However, BASIC to R is not something I'd 
wish on
anyone.

Now there are some R packages, including some I've been working on, that do 
offer
improvements on the optim() offerings. I would not say mine are yet fully ready 
for
incorporation into the base, but they are pretty close. Equally I think some of 
the tools
in the base should be deprecated and users encouraged to try other routines. It 
is also
getting more and more important that novice users be provided with sensible 
guidance and
robust default settings and choices. In many areas, users are faced with more 
choice than
is efficient for the majority of problems.

My question is: How should such changes be suggested / assisted? It seems to me 
that this
is beyond a simple feature request. Some discussion on pros and cons would be 
appropriate,
and those like myself who are familiar with particular tools can and should 
offer help.

Alternatively, is there a document available in the style "Writing R 
Extensions" that has
a title like "How the R Base Packages are Updated"? A brief search was negative.

I'm happy to compete with my own prior work to provide improvements. It would 
be nice to
see some of those improvements become the benchmark for further progress.


There are answers at many different levels to your questions. The simplest is that base packages are part of R, so they get updated when a member of R Core updates them, and the updates get released when a new version of R is released.

So if you want a change, you need to convince a member of the core to make it. Pointing out a bug is the easiest way to do this: bugs usually get fixed quickly, if they are clearly demonstrated.

If you want a bigger change, you need to make a convincing argument in favour of it. If you pick a topic that is of particular interest to one core member, and you can convince him to make the change, then it will happen. If pick some obscure topic that's not of interest to anyone, you'll need a very strong argument to make it interesting. Part of any of these arguments is explaining why the change needs to be made to the base, why it can't just be published in a contributed package. (That's why bug fixes are easy, and big additions to the base packages are not.)

Duncan Murdoch

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