Matthew,
I was hoping I misunderstood you first proposal, but I suspect I did not ;).
Personally, I find DT[1,V1 <- 3] highly disturbing - I would expect it to
evaluate to
{ V1 <- 3; DT[1, V1] }
thus returning the first element of the third column.
I do understand that within(foo, expr, ...) was the motivation for passing
expressions, but unlike within() the subsetting operator [ is not expected to
take expression as its second argument. Such abuse is quite unexpected and I
would say dangerous.
That said, I don't think it works, either. Taking you example and data.table
form r-forge:
> m = matrix(1,nrow=100000,ncol=100)
> DF = as.data.frame(m)
> DT = as.data.table(m)
> for (i in 1:1000) DT[1,V1 <- 3]
> DT[1,]
V1 V2 V3 V4 V5 V6 V7 V8 V9 V10 V11 V12 V13 V14 V15 V16 V17 V18 V19 V20 V21
[1,] 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
as you can see, DT is not modified.
Also I suspect there is something quite amiss because even trivial things don't
work:
> DF[1:4,1:4]
V1 V2 V3 V4
1 3 1 1 1
2 1 1 1 1
3 1 1 1 1
4 1 1 1 1
> DT[1:4,1:4]
[1] 1 2 3 4
When I first saw your proposal, I thought you have rather something like
within(DT, V1[1] <- 3)
in mind which looks innocent enough but performs terribly (note that I had to
scale down the loop by a factor of 100!!!):
> system.time(for (i in 1:10) within(DT, V1[1] <- 3))
user system elapsed
2.701 4.437 7.138
With the for loop something like within(DF, for (i in 1:1000) V1[i] <- 3))
performs reasonably:
> system.time(within(DT, for (i in 1:1000) V1[i] <- 3))
user system elapsed
0.392 0.613 1.003
(Note: system.time() can be misleading when within() is involved, because the
expression is evaluated in a different environment so within() won't actually
change the object in the global environment - it also interacts with the
possible duplication)
Cheers,
Simon
On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:21 PM, Matthew Dowle wrote:
> Thanks for the replies and info. An attempt at fast
> assign is now committed to data.table v1.6.3 on
> R-Forge. From NEWS :
>
> o Fast update is now implemented, FR#200.
> DT[i,j]<-value is now handled by data.table in C rather
> than falling through to data.frame methods.
>
> Thanks to Ivo Welch for raising speed issues on r-devel,
> to Simon Urbanek for the suggestion, and Luke Tierney and
> Simon for information on R internals.
>
> [<- syntax still incurs one working copy of the whole
> table (as of R 2.13.0) due to R's [<- dispatch mechanism
> copying to `*tmp*`, so, for ultimate speed and brevity,
> 'within' syntax is now available as follows.
>
> o A new 'within' argument has been added to [.data.table,
> by default TRUE. It is very similar to the within()
> function in base R. If an assignment appears in j, it
> assigns to the column of DT, by reference; e.g.,
>
> DT[i,colname<-value]
>
> This syntax makes no copies of any part of memory at all.
>
>> m = matrix(1,nrow=100000,ncol=100)
>> DF = as.data.frame(m)
>> DT = as.data.table(m)
>> system.time(for (i in 1:1000) DF[1,1] <- 3)
> user system elapsed
> 287.730 323.196 613.453
>> system.time(for (i in 1:1000) DT[1,V1 <- 3])
> user system elapsed
> 1.152 0.004 1.161 # 528 times faster
>
> Please note :
>
> *******************************************************
> ** Within syntax is presently highly experimental. **
> *******************************************************
>
> http://datatable.r-forge.r-project.org/
>
>
> On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 09:08 -0500, luke-tier...@uiowa.edu wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting, and I stand corrected:
>>>
>>>> x = data.frame(a=1:n,b=1:n)
>>>> .Internal(inspect(x))
>>> @103511c00 19 VECSXP g0c2 [OBJ,NAM(2),ATT] (len=2, tl=0)
>>> @102c7b000 13 INTSXP g0c7 [] (len=100000, tl=0) 1,2,3,4,5,...
>>> @102af3000 13 INTSXP g0c7 [] (len=100000, tl=0) 1,2,3,4,5,...
>>>
>>>> x[1,1]=42L
>>>> .Internal(inspect(x))
>>> @10349c720 19 VECSXP g0c2 [OBJ,NAM(2),ATT] (len=2, tl=0)
>>> @102c19000 13 INTSXP g0c7 [] (len=100000, tl=0) 42,2,3,4,5,...
>>> @102b55000 13 INTSXP g0c7 [] (len=100000, tl=0) 1,2,3,4,5,...
>>>
>>>> x[[1]][1]=42L
>>>> .Internal(inspect(x))
>>> @103511a78 19 VECSXP g1c2 [OBJ,MARK,NAM(2),ATT] (len=2, tl=0)
>>> @102e65000 13 INTSXP g0c7 [] (len=100000, tl=0) 42,2,3,4,5,...
>>> @101f14000 13 INTSXP g1c7 [MARK] (len=100000, tl=0) 1,2,3,4,5,...
>>>
>>>> x[[1]][1]=42L
>>>> .Internal(inspect(x))
>>> @10349c800 19 VECSXP g0c2 [OBJ,NAM(2),ATT] (len=2, tl=0)
>>> @102a2f000 13 INTSXP g0c7 [] (len=100000, tl=0) 42,2,3,4,5,...
>>> @102ec7000 13 INTSXP g0c7 [] (len=100000, tl=0) 1,2,3,4,5,...
>>>
>>>
>>> I have R to release ;) so I won't be looking into this right now, but it's
>>> something worth investigating ... Since all the inner contents have NAMED=0
>>> I would not expect any duplication to be needed, but apparently becomes so
>>> is at some point ...
>>
>>
>> The internals assume in various places that deep copies are made (one
>> of the reasons NAMED setings are not propagated to sub-sturcture).
>> The main issues are avoiding cycles and that there is no easy way to
>> check for sharing. There may be some circumstances in which a shallow
>> copy would be OK but making sure it would be in all cases is probably
>> more trouble than it is worth at this point. (I've tried this in the
>> past in a few cases and always had to back off.)
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> luke
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Matthew Dowle wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 21:11 -0400, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>>>>> No subassignment function satisfies that condition, because you can
>>>>> always call them directly. However, that doesn't stop the default method
>>>>> from making that assumption, so I'm not sure it's an issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> David, Just to clarify - the data frame content is not copied, we are
>>>>> talking about the vector holding columns.
>>>>
>>>> If it is just the vector holding the columns that is copied (and not the
>>>> columns themselves), why does n make a difference in this test (on R
>>>> 2.13.0)?
>>>>
>>>>> n = 1000
>>>>> x = data.frame(a=1:n,b=1:n)
>>>>> system.time(for (i in 1:1000) x[1,1] <- 42L)
>>>> user system elapsed
>>>> 0.628 0.000 0.628
>>>>> n = 100000
>>>>> x = data.frame(a=1:n,b=1:n) # still 2 columns, but longer columns
>>>>> system.time(for (i in 1:1000) x[1,1] <- 42L)
>>>> user system elapsed
>>>> 20.145 1.232 21.455
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With $<- :
>>>>
>>>>> n = 1000
>>>>> x = data.frame(a=1:n,b=1:n)
>>>>> system.time(for (i in 1:1000) x$a[1] <- 42L)
>>>> user system elapsed
>>>> 0.304 0.000 0.307
>>>>> n = 100000
>>>>> x = data.frame(a=1:n,b=1:n)
>>>>> system.time(for (i in 1:1000) x$a[1] <- 42L)
>>>> user system elapsed
>>>> 37.586 0.388 38.161
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it's because the 1st column needs to be copied (only) because that's
>>>> the one being assigned to (in this test), that magnitude of slow down
>>>> doesn't seem consistent with the time of a vector copy of the 1st
>>>> column :
>>>>
>>>>> n=100000
>>>>> v = 1:n
>>>>> system.time(for (i in 1:1000) v[1] <- 42L)
>>>> user system elapsed
>>>> 0.016 0.000 0.017
>>>>> system.time(for (i in 1:1000) {v2=v;v2[1] <- 42L})
>>>> user system elapsed
>>>> 1.816 1.076 2.900
>>>>
>>>> Finally, increasing the number of columns, again only the 1st is
>>>> assigned to :
>>>>
>>>>> n=100000
>>>>> x = data.frame(rep(list(1:n),100))
>>>>> dim(x)
>>>> [1] 100000 100
>>>>> system.time(for (i in 1:1000) x[1,1] <- 42L)
>>>> user system elapsed
>>>> 167.974 50.903 219.711
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Simon
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 9:01 PM, David Winsemius <dwinsem...@comcast.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:18 PM, <luke-tier...@uiowa.edu>
>>>>>> <luke-tier...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Matthew Dowle wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Simon (and all),
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've tried to make assignment as fast as calling `[<-.data.table`
>>>>>>>>> directly, for user convenience. Profiling shows (IIUC) that it isn't
>>>>>>>>> dispatch, but x being copied. Is there a way to prevent '[<-' from
>>>>>>>>> copying x?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good point, and conceptually, no. It's a subassignment after all - see
>>>>>>>> R-lang 3.4.4 - it is equivalent to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> `*tmp*` <- x
>>>>>>>> x <- `[<-`(`*tmp*`, i, j, value)
>>>>>>>> rm(`*tmp*`)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so there is always a copy involved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now, a conceptual copy doesn't mean real copy in R since R tries to
>>>>>>>> keep the pass-by-value illusion while passing references in cases
>>>>>>>> where it knows that modifications cannot occur and/or they are safe.
>>>>>>>> The default subassign method uses that feature which means it can
>>>>>>>> afford to not duplicate if there is only one reference -- then it's
>>>>>>>> safe to not duplicate as we are replacing that only existing
>>>>>>>> reference. And in the case of a matrix, that will be true at the
>>>>>>>> latest from the second subassignment on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately the method dispatch (AFAICS) introduces one more
>>>>>>>> reference in the dispatch chain so there will always be two references
>>>>>>>> so duplication is necessary. Since we have only 0 / 1 / 2+ information
>>>>>>>> on the references, we can't distinguish whether the second reference
>>>>>>>> is due to the dispatch or due to the passed object having more than
>>>>>>>> one reference, so we have to duplicate in any case. That is
>>>>>>>> unfortunate, and I don't see a way around (unless we handle
>>>>>>>> subassignment methods is some special way).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't believe dispatch is bumping NAMED (and a quick experiment
>>>>>>> seems to confirm this though I don't guarantee I did that right). The
>>>>>>> issue is that a replacement function implemented as a closure, which
>>>>>>> is the only option for a package, will always see NAMED on the object
>>>>>>> to be modified as 2 (because the value is obtained by forcing the
>>>>>>> argument promise) and so any R level assignments will duplicate. This
>>>>>>> also isn't really an issue of imprecise reference counting -- there
>>>>>>> really are (at least) two legitimate references -- one though the
>>>>>>> argument and one through the caller's environment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be good it we could come up with a way for packages to be
>>>>>>> able to define replacement functions that do not duplicate in cases
>>>>>>> where we really don't want them to, but this would require coming up
>>>>>>> with some sort of protocol, minimally involving an efficient way to
>>>>>>> detect whether a replacement funciton is being called in a replacement
>>>>>>> context or directly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would "$<-" always satisfy that condition. It would be big help to me if
>>>>>> it could be designed to avoid duplication the rest of the data.frame.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are some replacement functions that use C code to cheat, but
>>>>>>> these may create problems if called directly, so I won't advertise
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> luke
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Luke Tierney
>>>>>>> Statistics and Actuarial Science
>>>>>>> Ralph E. Wareham Professor of Mathematical Sciences
>>>>>>> University of Iowa Phone: 319-335-3386
>>>>>>> Department of Statistics and Fax: 319-335-3017
>>>>>>> Actuarial Science
>>>>>>> 241 Schaeffer Hall email: l...@stat.uiowa.edu
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Winsemius, MD
>>>>>> West Hartford, CT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Luke Tierney
>> Statistics and Actuarial Science
>> Ralph E. Wareham Professor of Mathematical Sciences
>> University of Iowa Phone: 319-335-3386
>> Department of Statistics and Fax: 319-335-3017
>> Actuarial Science
>> 241 Schaeffer Hall email: l...@stat.uiowa.edu
>> Iowa City, IA 52242 WWW: http://www.stat.uiowa.edu
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