On Dec 19, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Gabriel Becker wrote:

> Simon,
> 
> I don't really have a horse in this race (as I said I didn't write sandboxR), 
> but it seems like if you control library (to prevent "untrusted" packages, 
> specifically including things like Rcpp and Rffi), and dyn.load the executing 
> arbitrary compiled code issue can be curtailed. If I'm wrong please let me 
> know, I'm always looking to learn.
> 
> I assume XXXX in your example was some C code you whipped up and then loaded 
> using one of the methods above? Or a .Call to an existing internal R function?
> 

No, it's pure R code, I just didn't want to put the exploit on the list ...

Cheers,
S


> ~G
> 
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org> 
> wrote:
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Gabriel Becker wrote:
> 
> > See also: https://github.com/Rapporter/sandboxR
> >
> > sandboxR (not written by me) is a proof of concept for security inside R
> > (as opposed to security outside R as discussed above) via evaluating all R
> > commands in a specialized security environment (R environment that is)
> > which contains safe replacements for blacklisted functions.
> >
> 
> It is a good example of false security. For the reasons mentioned before this 
> doesn't work and can be circumvented:
> 
> > sandbox("XXXX('tail /etc/group')")
> _developer:*:204:
> _locationd:*:205:
> _carddav:*:206:
> _detachedsig:*:207:
> _trustevaluationagent:*:208:
> _odchpass:*:209:
> _timezone:*:210:
> _lda:*:211:
> _cvms:*:212:
> _usbmuxd:*:213:
> [1] 0
> 
> The problem is that you can try to plug holes (and sandboxR is trying hard to 
> plug a lot of them), but there will always be new ones. It's simply the wrong 
> approach IMHO.
> 
> Cheers,
> Simon
> 
> 
> 
> > HTH,
> > ~G
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel <e...@debian.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Jeroen has a package devoted to the sandboxing approach in conjunction with
> >> the system-level AppArmor facility:  RAppArmor.  See
> >>
> >>  http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/RAppArmor/index.html
> >>
> >> and more details at
> >>
> >>  https://github.com/jeroenooms/RAppArmor#readme
> >>
> >> Dirk
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dirk Eddelbuettel | e...@debian.org | http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Gabriel Becker
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> > Statistics Department
> > University of California, Davis
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Gabriel Becker
> Graduate Student
> Statistics Department
> University of California, Davis
> 

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