On 03/12/2013 09:55 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
On Mar 12, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Kevin Horan wrote:

    Thanks for your input. To clarify, I don't need to use any part of GSL in 
my R code, nor do I wish to make any part of it accessible to users of eiR. I 
need it to compile other C/C++ code (LSH KIT), which I did not write, that will 
itself be used in eiR.
    My goal is allow the user to install eiR without also having to install GSL 
before hand.
If your package is on CRAN they won't need to as we are providing Mac and 
Windows binaries. Linux can get the binaries form their distro, so the 
dependencies are installed automatically.
It will (hopefully) be hosted on BioConductor. I suppose they would do the same thing? I didn't realize this was the normal case.


The target audience is people in bioinformatics who may not how to install 
something like GSL. It seems like what I was suggesting is not such a good idea, 
if it will be hard to reliably find the header files from another R package. I 
could also push all of GSL into eiR, but as GSL has over 5000 files, this makes 
the package very large (>22 MB) and  slow to compile. Both of which are a 
problem when submitting a package to bioconductor. It may very well be that 
leaving GSL as an external dependency to eiR is really the best and easiest way, 
but I just wanted to see if there was any way to make it easier for the user.
Can you clarify what you mean by "user"? The vast majority of R users use 
binaries, so all this is irrelevant to them as they don't need to install GSL at all.
I just mean biologists installing and using the package. I didn't realize they are always distributed in binary form, guess I've had my head stuck in the linux world for too long :).

Cheers,
Simon


So, any other suggestions about how this could be accomplished?  Thanks.

Kevin

On 03/12/2013 05:26 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
Kevin,

On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Kevin Horan wrote:

I am developing an R package, eiR,  which depends on another C library, GNU 
scientific library (GSL). In order to make life easier for the user, it would 
be nice to not have this as an external dependency, thus I would like to wrap 
this library in another R package, say GSLR for example. Thus far I know how to 
do this. The C code in eiR requires the .so library and the header files from 
GSL in order to compile. So the idea is that eiR would depend on GSLR, then 
GSLR gets compiled and installed first, then, while eiR is installing, it 
should be able to make use of the GSL library and header files while compiling. 
So my question is, how do I know where the GSL library and header files, 
packaged in GSLR, would live so I can point the compiler at them? I know how to 
find the installed directory of an R package from within R, but is there way to 
find that out using just Makevars or a Makefile? I'm open to suggestions about 
a better way organize all of this as well. I like th!
e idea of keeping the GSL code separate so that it can be updated/changed 
independently from eiR though.
Have a look at Rcpp.


    I'm also aware of the gsl R library on CRAN, however, this just wraps GSL 
in R functions, but I need to use the GSL C functions in other C code in eiR.

Why is what you are proposing any better than simply using GSL in eiR? You will 
still need the GSL external dependency for GSLR and you are only adding a lot 
of complexity by linking into another package's external directory (you cannot 
use libs) which is in itself very tricky (you'll have to deal with both static 
and shared version, multi-arch setups, possible relocation etc.). It won't make 
it any easier on the user, rather to the contrary as there will be more things 
to break. The only reason Rcpp goes into such length to do this is because it 
has no choice (the Rcpp library has to use the same libR so cannot be used as 
external dependency) - I would certainly not recommend it for something as 
trivial as providing GSL.

Cheers,
Simon


Thanks.

Kevin

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