Any intelligent comments on this before I submit a proposal/patch via
bugs.r-project.org?

/Henrik

On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Henrik Bengtsson <h...@biostat.ucsf.edu> 
wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Henrik Bengtsson <h...@biostat.ucsf.edu> 
> wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Paul Gilbert <pgilbert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This is related to the recent thread on correct NAMESPACE approach when 
>>> writing S3 methods. If your methods are S4 I think pkgB does not need to 
>>> export the generic. Just export the method and everything works magically 
>>> and your problem disappears. For S3 methods there seems to be the 
>>> difficultly you describe. Of course, the difference between S3 and S4 on 
>>> this appears somewhat bug like. (I have not tested all this very carefully 
>>> so I may have something wrong.)
>>
>> For the record, you're referring to R-devel thread 'Correct NAMESPACE
>> approach when writing an S3 method for a generic in another package'
>> started on Aug 24, 2013
>> [https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2013-August/067221.html].
>> Yes, it's closely related or possibly the same issue.  However, I do
>> not find it odd that the S3 generic function needs to be exported
>> from/available via the namespace.  Hence it needs to be export():ed by
>> at least one package/namespace.
>>
>> The real issue is when two package needs to export a generic function
>> with the same name, e.g. foo().   If the two generic functions are
>> defined differently (e.g. different arguments/signatures), they will
>> be in conflict with each other.  If they are identical, this should
>> not be a problem, but here I might be wrong.  However, there is also
>> the special case where one package reexports the generic function from
>> another package, e.g. PkgB::foo() exports PkgA:foo().  In this case,
>> the object 'foo' does actually not existing in the name space of
>> package PkgB - instead it provides a "redirect" to it, e.g.
>>
>>> PkgA::foo
>> function (...)
>> UseMethod("foo")
>> <environment: namespace:PkgA>
>>
>>> PkgB::foo
>> function (...)
>> UseMethod("foo")
>> <environment: namespace:PkgA>
>>
>>> exists("foo", envir=getNamespace("PkgB"), inherits=FALSE)
>> [1] FALSE
>>
>>> exists("foo", envir=getNamespace("PkgB"), inherits=TRUE)
>> [1] TRUE
>>
>>> identical(PkgB::foo, PkgA::foo)
>> [1] TRUE
>>
>>
>> The warning on "replacing previous import by 'PkgA::foo' when loading
>> 'PkgC'" that occurs due to import(PkgA, PkgB) is generated in
>> base::namespaceImportFrom()
>> [http://svn.r-project.org/R/trunk/src/library/base/R/namespace.R],
>> simply because it detects that "foo" (=n) has already been imported to
>> PkgC' namespace (=impenv):
>>
>> if (exists(n, envir = impenv, inherits = FALSE)) {
>>     if (.isMethodsDispatchOn() && methods:::isGeneric(n, ns)) {
>>         ## warn only if generic overwrites a function which
>>         ## it was not derived from
>>         ...
>>     }
>>     warning(sprintf(msg, sQuote(paste(nsname, n, sep = "::")),
>> sQuote(from)), call. = FALSE, domain = NA)
>> }
>>
>> Note how there is already code for avoiding "false" warnings on S4
>> generic function.  This is what we'd like to have also for S3 generic
>> functions, but it's much harder to test for such since they're not
>> formally defined.  However, I'd argue that it is safe to skip the
>> warning *when the variable to be imported does not actually exist in
>> the package being imported* (e.g. when just rexported), i.e.
>>
>>>svn diff namespace.R
>> Index: namespace.R
>> ===================================================================
>> --- namespace.R (revision 63776)
>> +++ namespace.R (working copy)
>> @@ -871,6 +871,10 @@
>>      }
>>      for (n in impnames)
>>         if (exists(n, envir = impenv, inherits = FALSE)) {
>> +            ## warn only if imported variable actually exists in the
>> +            ## namespace imported from, which is not the case if
>> +            ## the variable is rexported from another namespace
>> +            if (!exists(n, envir = ns, inherits = FALSE)) next
>>             if (.isMethodsDispatchOn() && methods:::isGeneric(n, ns)) {
>>                 ## warn only if generic overwrites a function which
>>                 ## it was not derived from
>
> Ok, if import(PkgA, PkgB) and PkgB reexports a *different* foo() than
> PkgA::foo(), say PkgZ::foo so identical(PkgB::foo, PkgA::foo) is
> FALSE, then there is indeed a conflict.  An alternative patch:
>
>>svn diff namespace.R
> Index: namespace.R
> ===================================================================
> --- namespace.R (revision 63776)
> +++ namespace.R (working copy)
> @@ -871,6 +871,11 @@
>      }
>      for (n in impnames)
>         if (exists(n, envir = impenv, inherits = FALSE)) {
> +            ## warn only if imported variable is non-identical to
> +            ## the one already imported
> +            getImp <- get(n, envir = impenv)
> +            obj <- get(n, envir = ns)
> +            if (identical(obj, getImp)) next
>             if (.isMethodsDispatchOn() && methods:::isGeneric(n, ns)) {
>                 ## warn only if generic overwrites a function which
>                 ## it was not derived from
>
> /Henrik
>
>>
>> I'm planning to propose ("wishlist / enhancement"; it may even be a
>> bug) this over at https://bugs.r-project.org/.
>>
>> Comments, anyone?
>>
>> /Henrik
>>
>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Henrik Bengtsson <h...@biostat.ucsf.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>SETUP:
>>>>Consider three packages PkgA, PkgB and PkgC.
>>>>
>>>>PkgA defines a generic function foo() and exports it;
>>>>
>>>>export(foo)
>>>>
>>>>PkgB imports PkgA::foo() and re-exports it;
>>>>
>>>>importFrom(PkgA, foo)
>>>>export(foo)
>>>>
>>>>PkgC imports everything from PkgA and PkgB:
>>>>
>>>>imports(PkgA, PkgB)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>PROBLEM:
>>>>Loading or attaching the namespace of PkgC will generate a warning:
>>>>
>>>>  replacing previous import by 'PkgA::foo' when loading 'PkgC'
>>>>
>>>>This in turn causes 'R CMD check' on PkgC to generate a WARNING (no-go at 
>>>>CRAN):
>>>>
>>>>* checking whether package 'PkgC' can be installed ... WARNING
>>>>Found the following significant warnings:
>>>>  Warning: replacing previous import by 'PkgA::foo' when loading
>>>>'CellularAutomaton'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>FALSE?
>>>>Isn't it valid to argue that this is a "false" warning, because
>>>>identical(PkgB::foo, PkgA::foo) is TRUE and therefore has no effect?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>/Henrik
>>>>
>>>>PS. The above can be avoided by using explicit importFrom() on PkgA
>>>>and PkgB, but that's really tedious.  In my case this is out of my
>>>>reach, because I'm the author of PkgA and PkgB but not many of the
>>>>PkgC packages.
>>>>
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