Hello,

If Hilbert liked beer, I like "pipe".

More seriously, a new addition like this one is going to cause problems yet unknown. But it's a good idea to have a pipe operator available. As someone used to magrittr's data pipelines, I will play with this base one before making up my mind. I don't expect its behavior to be exactly like magrittr "%>%" (and it's not). For the moment all I can say is that it is something R users are used to and that it now avoids loading a package. As for the new way to define anonymous functions, I am less sure. Too much syntatic sugar? Or am I finding the syntax ugly?

Hope this helps,

Rui Barradas


Às 03:22 de 06/12/20, Gregory Warnes escreveu:
If we’re being mathematically pedantic, the “pipe” operator is actually
function composition >
That being said, pipes are a simple and well-known idiom. While being less
than mathematically exact, it seems a reasonable   label for the (very
useful) behavior.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 9:43 PM Abby Spurdle <spurdl...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is a good addition

I can't understand why so many people are calling this a "pipe".
Pipes connect processes, via their I/O streams.
Arguably, a more general interpretation would include sockets and files.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipeline_(Unix)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Named_pipe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_pipe

As far as I can tell, the magrittr-like operators are functions (not
pipes), with nonstandard syntax.
This is not consistent with R's original design philosophy, building
on C, Lisp and S, along with lots of *important* math and stats.

It's possible that some parties are interested in creating a kind of
"data pipeline".
I'm interested in this myself, and I think we could discuss this more.
But I'm not convinced the magrittr-like operators help to achieve this
goal.
Which, in my opinion, would require one to model programs as directed
graphs, along with some degree of asynchronous input.

Presumably, these operators will be added to R anyway, and (almost) no
one will listen to me.

So, I would like to make one suggestion:
Is it possible for these operators to *not* be named:
     The R Pipe
     The S Pipe
     Or anything with a similar meaning.

Maybe tidy pipe, or something else that links it to its proponents?

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