>>>>> Pavel Krivitsky via R-devel >>>>> on Mon, 28 Apr 2025 05:13:41 +0000 writes:
> Hello, Under R 4.5.0 on Windows (x86-64), I get: >> sqrt(.Machine$double.xmax)^2 > [1] Inf >> sqrt(.Machine$double.xmax)*sqrt(.Machine$double.xmax) > [1] Inf > On other hand on other platforms, including Debian Linux > (x86-64), I get: d> sqrt(.Machine$double.xmax)^2 > [1] 1.797693134862315508561e+308 d> sqrt(.Machine$double.xmax)*sqrt(.Machine$double.xmax) > [1] 1.797693134862315508561e+308 > Windows is running inside a VirtualBox instance on the > same host as Linux. I don't have direct results from the > MacOS platforms, but based on the symptoms that had led me > to investigate, the behaviour is as the Linux. > Adding to the mystery, if I implement the same operation in C, e.g., > library(inline) > sqrsqrt <- cfunction(sig = c(x = "numeric"), language = "C", " > double sqrtx = sqrt(Rf_asReal(x)); > return Rf_ScalarReal(sqrtx*sqrtx); > ") > R on Linux yields: d> sqrsqrt(.Machine$double.xmax) > [1] 1.797693134862315508561e+308 > i.e., the same number, whereas R on Windows yields: d> sqrsqrt(.Machine$double.xmax) > [1] 1.797693134862315508804e+308 > which is not Inf but not the same as Linux either. > Lastly, on both platforms, d> sqrsqrt(.Machine$double.xmax) < .Machine$double.xmax > [1] TRUE > I am not sure if this is a bug, intended behaviour, or something else. "something else": It is not a bug, nor intended, but should also *not* be surprising nor a mistery: The largest possible double precision number is by definition "very close to infinity" (in the space of double precision numbers) [R 4.5.0 patched on Linux (Fedora 40; x86_64)] : > (M <- .Machine$double.xmax) [1] 1.797693e+308 > M+1 == M [1] TRUE > M*(1 + 2^-52) [1] Inf > print(1 + 2^-52, digits= 16) [1] 1 > print(1 + 2^-52, digits= 17) [1] 1.0000000000000002 > What you see, I'd classify as quite related to R FAQ 7.31, := "the most frequently asked question about R among all the other frequently asked questions" A nice reading is the README you get here https://github.com/ThinkR-open/seven31 which does link also to the R FAQ at https://cran.r-project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#Why-doesn_0027t-R-think-these-numbers-are-equal_003f Of tangential interest only: You mention that it is R 4.5.0 you use on Windows. Would you (or anybody else) know if this is new behaviour or it also happened e.g. in R 4.4.x versions on Windows? Best regards, Martin -- Martin Maechler ETH Zurich and R Core team ______________________________________________ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel