On Luned́, giu 16, 2003, at 20:45 Europe/Rome, Don MacQueen wrote:
Couple of questions...on this specific point: Darwin R will remain another unix-like build of R as it is now but with an additional GUI (the aqua module) and device (quartz). You can still build R-devel using fink.
Thanks -Don
At 10:00 AM -0700 6/16/03, Jan de Leeuw wrote:Pretty soon, hopefully, the RAqua version will make the Darwin/X11
version unnecessary. In the meantime, for convergence, I'll modify the Gifi
version in various ways.
-- It's 1.7.1 -- It no longer supports gnome -- It still uses Tcl/Tk for X11 (using 8.5 from CVS) !! It no longer uses anything from fink (readline and dlcompat as on Stefano's site, jpeg and png and teTeX from Gerben Wierda's i-installer, Tcl/Tk from cvs, X11 from Apple)
Is the user expected to have separately installed any or all of these various libraries, or are they included in the R distribution and installed by the R installer? Or what?
Specifically for X11, does it assume the user has separately installed Apple's X11 and QuartzWM, and if so, is it in any way dependent on anything unique to Apple's X11? That is, will it work if the user is using XFree86/XDarwin and some (any) other window manager?
-- the package installer will put everything in /usr/local
This means that all references to /sw in configure.ac can go.
Do you mean that at some point in the future you intend that the configure.ac in the source distribution will remove all references to /sw? I'm not sure this is a good idea; I think I would prefer to have the option of building from sources using fink for those other things (readline, jpeg, png, tetex, etc) if I want to. Otherwise I have to learn how to get them from several other sites, increasing my system maintenance load and making it harder to keep them up to date.
Can you give specific and substantive reasons why fink should be avoided?
I get the impression that R for OS X is being moved away from being another unix R variant (in the sense that Solaris, various Linuxes, SGI, etc. are unix variants), and moved toward being a specialized platform-specific version. Assuming my impression is more or less correct, I'd like to understand the pros and cons of this move.
RAqua is just a doubleclicking version of Darwin R.
Nothing will change for the developer I guess, but it will simplify the life to MacOS X end users.
I don't think there is the need to remove /sw from the search path at configure time.
The motivation of making an Aqua version of R is that I knew about several (lots of) people using OS X and Carbon R instead of Darwin/X11 which is bad as Carbon R is becoming too limited (and for this reason no more supported starting with 1.8.0)
stefano
This
next distribution will appear probably on wednesday. Undoubtedly
some packages will break, because they still use stuff from /sw,
but I'll fix those as we go along.
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